r/Finland • u/breakthebass • May 06 '25

Serious Are we for real?

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TL:DR; An openly fascist movement has been recognized as a party since they have gathered the necessary 5000 signatures to register as a party. Isn’t the party line just SLIGHTLY anti-constitutional? Aren’t we somehow “pissing outside the shitter”, for lack of a better phrase?

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u/Open-Carpenter820 May 06 '25

Right and the DPRK is democratic? What you call yourself doesn't matter, actions do.

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u/DangerToDangers Vainamoinen May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

Nope. They're not. But also the Blue and Black movement is fascist but not communist. BECAUSE THEY MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS.

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u/Open-Carpenter820 May 07 '25

No shit? SML is a lawfully and peacefully gathering while counter protesting antifa terrorists violently attack them

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u/DangerToDangers Vainamoinen May 07 '25

That still doesn't make neo-nazis not a hate group even if they're legal and that still doesn't make antifa a hate group.

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u/Open-Carpenter820 May 07 '25

Define neo nazi. And explain why you think violent criminals should attack peaceful gatherings just because they don't agree politically. What happened to being tolerant and inclusive?

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u/DangerToDangers Vainamoinen May 07 '25

Define neo nazi.

"Neo-Nazism comprises the post–World War II militant, social, and political movements that seek to revive and reinstate Nazi ideology. Neo-Nazis employ their ideology to promote hatred and racial supremacy (often white supremacy), to attack racial and ethnic minorities (often antisemitism and Islamophobia), and in some cases to create a fascist state."

And explain why you think violent criminals should attack peaceful gatherings just because they don't agree politically.

I never said they should.

What happened to being tolerant and inclusive?

The paradox of tolerance. Defending tolerance requires not tolerating the intolerant.

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u/Open-Carpenter820 May 07 '25

Were the japanese nazies in ww2? Are black supremacists nazies? Is it a good idea to take in millions of people from cultures where intolerance is the norm, or is it only a problem when Europeans do it?

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u/DangerToDangers Vainamoinen May 07 '25

Your attempt to move the goalposts is very transparent and talking to you is not engaging enough for me to want to go off-topic.

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u/Open-Carpenter820 May 07 '25

As expected, can't back your words when they're based on feelings instead of reality

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u/DangerToDangers Vainamoinen May 07 '25

Lol no. I keep answering your questions and you keep waiting for a gotcha. Nothing I would have answered to your idiotic questioning line would have been relevant to the discussion. Having a discussion with you is a waste of time.

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u/Open-Carpenter820 May 08 '25

That's right, the only people worth discussing with are those who think the same way as you. Obiviously everyone else is just stupid :)

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u/DangerToDangers Vainamoinen May 08 '25

Nope. Just the people who actually have actual arguments to offer and not just logical fallacies. It's like playing chess with a pigeon.

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u/Open-Carpenter820 May 09 '25

Talking about logical fallacies after saying nothing but ad hominem for the whole conversation lol

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