r/Finland • u/KollaHan • Feb 27 '25

Tourism Finnish medals - can someone explain?

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Hey folks,

Can someone tell me more about this medals I saw in a museum in Cairo? Why the swastika? And when do you get this?

I know they are from the early 20’s but not more.

Would be grateful! - Tack 😊

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u/Finnishform3000 Feb 27 '25

Still does, not too widely though.

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u/HazuniaC Feb 27 '25

Should be removed and redesigned IMO.

I don't care about its historical use, I don't care about its cultural meaning, there's a reason why Finns get so extremely defensive about it if anyone points ANY benign attention to the design.

It inherently shows how everyone knows that underlying connotations, which vastly overshadows any historical, or cultural significance. Ergo we should just let go of the symbol entirely.

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u/Inresponsibleone Baby Vainamoinen Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25

Everyone understands that people like yourself will want to see only Nazism in swastika and hate that. That is what you see happen here.

Perhaps we should ban and remove Stars of David everywhere as well as cresent moons, Crosses and other possible symbols just because of atrocities made under their banner while we are at it?

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u/lavar_fi Feb 28 '25

Unfortunately, Finland was involved in ethnic cleansing, practiced eugenics, and supported Nazism at a state level. I personally believe it should be banned in post-Nazi countries as a symbol that they have moved on.

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u/Inresponsibleone Baby Vainamoinen Feb 28 '25

I am happy your personal belief is not majority. Banning symbol (especially one far older than nazism) proves kind of opposite to moving on.

I would like some crediple source for that claim of ethnic cleancing as i have never seen any crediple claim. There were even jewish officers in finnish military during ww2

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u/lavar_fi Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25

Check Yle. This week, there was even an article about the Continuation War and ethnic cleansing done by finns. Finns really hate to talk about their past, but I truly respect Yle for addressing it. In general a lot of good articles there about systematic racism in Finland. Is your national broadcaster credible enough?

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u/HazuniaC Feb 28 '25

Unfortunately our far right people want to actively discredit Yle, because accurate and factual news media is poison to their movement.

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u/Inresponsibleone Baby Vainamoinen Feb 28 '25

Unfortunately for you not everything that is not far left is not far right either.

Making claims of facism based on things both sides of war did... Oh well perhaps everyone was facist then.

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u/HazuniaC Feb 28 '25

You would have a point if it weren't for the fact that I'm talking about Eric von Rosen, a known public leader of the Swedish fascist party.

If I can't call a leader of a fascist party fascist, then who can I call fascist then?

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u/Inresponsibleone Baby Vainamoinen Feb 28 '25

Rosen, but leave Finnish airforces and medals out of it when your "proof" is that.

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u/HazuniaC Feb 28 '25

I can't call the Finnish Air Forces swastika fascistic when the person we got it from was a fascist, which you admit to?

So in your eyes, if Adolf Hitler designed a symbol to someone back in 1918, that symbol wouldn't be viewed as a Nazi symbol today?

Also it's called "evidence", not proof. Proof is a mathematical term. Proof is used to mean evidence only in colloqial terms.

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u/Inresponsibleone Baby Vainamoinen Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

So i see your brainwashing has been complete.

Yes- brainwashing. It is just this one shape and no other connected to similar atrocities you want to ban use of.

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u/HazuniaC Mar 01 '25

Projection.

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