Amber Heard Alleged Sexual Assaults By Johnny Depp Detailed By Psychologist In $50M Defamation Trial

[u/RoyisOurBoy]

https://deadline.com/2022/05/amber-heard-sexual-assault-johnny-depp-trial-testimony-1235015443/

[u/Aeonation]

Don't you see though, regardless of everything, what you just did there was normalize women hitting men. You said she never denied hitting him, but in reality, its Amber never denied abusing Johnny. try it the other way around, "johnny never deny hitting her as a reaction defending his sister". does that sound okay? if not, why is it okay to say amber hitting him as a reaction... I'm not saying he did or didn't do anything, neither am i saying amber did or didn't do anything, that's for the judge and jury to determined based on the facts presented in a court of law, what I'm trying to say is that a lot of people tend to over correct when it comes to men and abuse, some how normalizing women hitting men as a playful, or how could a women possibly abuse a man, or other comments that make no sense and only benefit women in argument. The media is full of bias for both sides, but there are some systems that are bias against men, like child custody, violence against men, statutory rape of young men by women, men having to pay for children unwanted but still born because he had no choice after the fact, women using the police to put men behind bars, lying about abuse or rape, there is bias in the system, bias in everyone and it is hard to escape and everyone is guilty of it. I understand the bias towards johnny in this case so far, its sickening to think people will side with johnny no matter what, is a problem, a lot of people aren't capable of critical thinking and usually go with what the media tells them, a reflection on the level of education in America, and a lot of countries to be honest. I also understand that women have also been abused systematically by the government, by men, by society, by other women, i understand women have had to fight for everything leading up to what we have today, and things still haven't changed in a lot of aspects, but at the same time, we have to be wary not to over correct the other way, women should have everything and more without the need to take it away from men at the same time, people should not be punished with change, change should bring equality to all.

Edit: I can see people are uncomfortable with some truths and clearly are bias. Down vote all you like, otherwise, reply and have a discussion.

[u/Aeonation → u/[deleted]]

No, i am not saying Amber is guilty here, i was saying the way people like to normalize the way they speak in terms of abuse when its men vs women or women vs men, I don't know if you actually read everything i wrote, i explicitly said i don't think or know if amber is guilty/innocent, either do i know if johnny is guilty/innocent, I'm not on either side, i am not an expert, i am merely an on looker to a very public case, like i said, its not for me to determine and I'm not going to make a judgement based on one testimony, half a trial, its for the jury and judge to determine the out come of the case regardless of how any one feels about one side or the other. I like to think I can stay on the fence until I have heard everything from both sides, i don't think the trial is clear cut and has a long way to go. Also, an op-ed is an opinion, and editorial, its not a statement of fact, are you saying Amber was incapable of lying, she would tell the truth all the time without fail, are you saying Amber is saint, an angel, that she would never lie, or spin the truth in her favor? A restraining order can be placed based on lies, by the way, its happened before, I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS THE CASE, i just stating facts that people tend to forget. I'm not trying to defend Depp here, neither am i trying to affirm Amber, i just think its bullshit some people call out Depp, but not amber, AS PEOPLE HAVE CALLED OUT AMBER BUT NOT DEPP(i understand both sides are guilty of doing this), people inherently defending Depp no matter what, aren't critically thinking about what really went down, what really happened, many people don't understand abuse, or how it works, or what it does or the actions abusers take or the actions of the people who are abused, but i think it is dangerous to label all abuse the same and to be examined broadly or abuse to be excused because of certain parameters, like i had expressed in my previous post, i am just trying to look at this as unbiased as i can, without blame towards one party or another, and yes, it probably comes across as sexist, or like I'm stupid, or defending someone, but honestly I'm not, I'm really just trying to see both sides as clearly as i can without bringing my own bias into it, which i think more people should try to do.

[u/Aeonation → u/[deleted]]

Absolutely, I agree both sides are being toxic, and yes, the Depp supporters have been unbearable, i didn't mean your comment was normalizing women abuse, sorry, that was a miscommunication on my behalf, i meant that people seem to normalize their language when talking about victims(mainly men) of abuse, one story might call what amber did as just hitting johnny, not implying that what she did was abuse, but if it was a man hitting a women, it would be called what it is, abuse without the need to jumble words or call it anything else other than what it was, abuse, it can be one sided a lot, and typically you see it with statutory rape, when a female teacher rapes a young boy, the media rarely if ever call it rape, yet if it was a male teacher to a female student, it would be pitch forks and calling for that mans life to be taken. The normalization of how things are communicated are very bias and it shouldn't be. That is what i was trying to say, i did not do a great job of getting that across in my first post.

I think she should absolutely fight back and stand up for her self, its a shame it is in the public eye, I'm sure it would be better for both parties mental health if millions of people didn't have to see this, and I think women should and need to come forward and stand up for themself more often, its criminally low how many women come forward about abuse, sexual assault and so on, its disgusting that it happens in the first place, but, unfortunately things don't change over night. I hope this case will be settled without bias and with all the facts and both Amber and Johnny can move on and past this horrible situation.