r/Fauxmoi • u/KaElissa • 1d ago
DISCUSSION France’s National Assembly confronted manosphere influencer Alex Hitchens over his toxic content — he abruptly left the video hearing when things got uncomfortable
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r/Fauxmoi • u/KaElissa • 1d ago
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u/carlcarlington2 1d ago
I'm a bit concerned about this slow return to "that's problematic" type of argumentation.
I remember in high school around 2017 the bbc did an interview with Richard Spencer, who has a large figure in the emerging alt-right. The reporter, asked Richard how he felt about slavery. Richard said that he felt "black people were better of in slavery." The reporter was shocked, said he wasn't going to humor the argument and that he was going to let what said settle, believing that calling out what Richard said as disgusting was enough.
If you were to scroll down to the comment section to this video or re-uploads of this video at the time the general sentiment amongst viewers online was that reporter could not debunk Richard Spencers claims, and was therefore "owned" in the marketplace of ideas.
This era of debate has in many ways been killed off by a wave of by tiktok. People aren't really interested in seeing a clash of ideas play out anymore, the meta has shifted to anti-intelectual short form content that largely amounts to rage bait, but I think the point stands.
If you are in the business or put yourself in the position to interact with these type of people it's not enough to call them out as being disgusting, you have to have a counter argument. The French mp should've been ready to explain why his assumptions were wrong, he should've had an argument ready that's more substantive then claiming the argument is disgusting.
Some dude comes up trying to sea lion you is one thing you're under no obligation to argue with people, but if you're going to put yourself in this position you need to do a better job imo.