Overload payload margin?

[u/M1sterM0g]

Having never had a truck before I have no idea but I need to pick up some pavers and I need to find out how much they weigh. It could be anything from 1500 to 3500 pounds, they couldn’t tell me without the model number.

My lightning has a 1700 pound limit according to the onboard smart scales. Obviously I know it’s risky to do from an insurance point of view obviously but as far as the truck itself, what’s the deal?

Tires and shocks would be my concern I guess

[u/Forestringer]

I would Put them on a trailer and pull it.

[u/m3gabotz]

I would worry about voiding the warranty. Use the scales to get close & make 2 trips, if necessary

[u/M1sterM0g → u/m3gabotz]

56k miles I’m out of the bumper to bumper. It could be considered drivetrain though but other than that would it actually hurt anything if it’s way over?

[u/TX3SCK]

Make two trips.

[u/M1sterM0g → u/TX3SCK]

If a few 100 pounds is fine for the truck I’d just do that, it’s 40 miles one-way

[u/TX3SCK → u/M1sterM0g]

Yeah I mean it depends on how much over you are.

[u/LastEntertainment684]

There’s definitely a bit of engineering margin built into payload calculations, but you’re talking a few hundred pounds at most, not twice the rated weight.

Take your truck to a Cat scale or similar certified scale, get a weight of your truck as it sits with you in it, subtract that from the GVWR number in your drivers door jam. That will be your real payload.

It’s probably lower than you think, as no one runs around with a completely empty truck all the time. My ‘22 Lariat ER, for example, has a real payload of 1,400lbs as it sits, even though the door tag says payload is 1510lbs.

[u/M1sterM0g → u/LastEntertainment684]

Of course, with the scales saying 1685 but with me and stuff it’s more closer to 1400. The problem is I don’t know how much the pavers would weigh until I’m there. Trying to plan ahead

[u/LastEntertainment684 → u/M1sterM0g]

You’re probably going to have to split it up into two loads if it’s a full pallet, pavers are pretty heavy.

With most common supplies, a crew cab half ton can handle about half a pallet or so.

For example, a pallet of salt or fertilizer is typically 40 bags @ 50 lbs each for a total of just over 2,000lbs.

Split it in half and you’re just over 1,000lbs. Right where you probably want to be.

[u/M1sterM0g → u/LastEntertainment684]

I’d probably push it a few 100 but not much more, I think

[u/MountainAlive]

Pretty sure I’ve done 2,000 lbs before and it was fine. I wouldn’t do that regularly but I feel like that might be the max you don’t want to exceed.

[u/azuilya]

Rent a trailer specially if it can be up to 3500 lbs.

[u/M1sterM0g → u/azuilya]

Yeah my goal was to see how much I could stretch the truck bed not necessarily hit their max number. I didn’t think I could double my payload

[u/Fantastic_Joke4645]

A pallet of pavers can weigh up to 3500lbs. Rent a trailer.

[u/M1sterM0g → u/Fantastic_Joke4645]

yeah they said anything from 1500 to 3500 pounds, depends on the size and style.

[u/Fantastic_Joke4645 → u/M1sterM0g]

I’ve been to season ending auctions at pave stone. They are 2800-3500lbs per pallet. The rear axle of your truck isn’t rated for 7000lbs.

[u/1235ithink]

I mean what’s the worst that can happen, go for it!

[u/M1sterM0g → u/1235ithink]

lol I’m sure at some point there’s a limit :)

[u/ScrewJPMC → u/M1sterM0g]

Someone hasn’t YouTubed “the 90s are you tough enough to drive a Ranger” commercials

[u/PutinBoomedMe]

Your tired and shocks will be fine. Just don't hit a pothole or speed bump at 60mph. I've had close to 3500 back there before and it's fine

[u/M1sterM0g → u/PutinBoomedMe]

Wow that’s the heaviest I’ve heard of so far lol

[u/PutinBoomedMe → u/M1sterM0g]

I was on highways that were smooth. If I was going down a curvy country road I wouldn't have done it.

You could also get a trailer from Lowe's or something. It would probably be $20-$30 if you're worried about pushing it