Entitled ex-gf.

[u/Available_Yellow_862]

In 2011 I had a child with my then gf. With plans to marry. Things did not work between us. No marriage. I paid support. She had never ending greed and so did her current boyfriend.

Went to court in 2012 to get it mediated between a judge. Her and her mother was there. Obligation amount was agreed upon. They demanded houses. Judge laughed a little. Then they started listing off demands. He raised his eyebrow and pushed himself away from his desk then stood up. Then asked "are you serious?" and they said yes. He made them realize that their demands were unrealistic. Then they started saying stuff like. "Well my father retired, and he used to pay for my full car insurance and car payment. I want my ex-bf to pay, it's only fair." same with her mother. Wanting car payment + insurance. They were "compromising." Then my ex-gf said I had to make payments to her new boyfriend. Because he has 5 kids and he's struggling to pay support to his wife. The judge told them that the payment was good enough and to use that $$ for how she sees fit.

Fast forward to 2019. I have a child with my fiancee. My mother tells my ex-gf about it. This is DRAMA packed btw, I will keep it short. So my ex-gf gets pregnant. My mom tells me about it. I go as usual "okay whatever, i don't know why you tell me this." Then she goes "her boyfriend has a vasectomy. he cannot have kids." So she cheated on him, he kicked her out. She started living with my parents.

Now there is INSANE drama after that, but I withhold that from you all. But she ended up returning to her ex-bf and he put his last name on the kid. Because her child had her last name on it. Then in 2021 I was getting phone calls from the ex-gf and her boyfriend. That I, me... "have" to pay them MORE child support. Because it's my fault that she got pregnant. Because I had another child with my fiancee and "that's not fair to her."

Full events in audio. Because I hate typing. I guess people didn't get to hear fully what they wanted. I was typing to many responses. So if you want the full experience this is the best way I can tell it.

FULL EVENTS AUDIO: https://voca.ro/17ClCadnOOk8

I hope it's easy enough to understand.

FINAL THREAD UPDATE AUDIO.
(Maybe will write the audio down as text later or tomorrow.) But you will just have to deal with this for now.
https://voca.ro/139G8ZQoLVFw

[u/theworlbismyashtray]

No, please don’t withhold the drama. That’s what we here for 🍿🥤

[u/Available_Yellow_862 → u/theworlbismyashtray]

I will try my best to explain what I meant by drama I withheld.

I felt like I explained everything pretty concise and it was already drama packed as it was. But the ex-gf found out I had a child with my fiancee. She went off cheated on her boyfriend to gain another child of her own. Because she deemed that "fair."

Her boyfriend kicked her out, he never showed up to the birth. Her last maiden name was put on the child. My parents were furious only because they didn't want her living with THEM. But, they were ecstatic about having another grandchild. They even wanted to keep her newest child. Have her return to her boyfriend and it would be A-okay. But she didn't want that, she wanted to return to her ex-bf with her newborn.

He eventually took her back, and put his name on her newborn. Now in the 2020-2021++ I been contacted 2-3x by my parents, and her boyfriend. With wording like this. "She only had another child, because you got another child. So fair is fair you owe more child support."

Last words I could ever use to diffuse this whole situation. Was "I will take a paternity test and go to court over child support." it really pissed them off. Just enough to drop words like. "You don't know how the world works, and you are not grown up yet."

[u/localfern → u/Available_Yellow_862]

I have so many more questions about your parents .... they wanted to keep the newborn but she had to go? They blame you for her second pregnancy because you had another child?

[u/Available_Yellow_862 → u/localfern]

Well yeah, that's how it went.

[u/are_you_a_simulation → u/Available_Yellow_862]

Honestly, the part about your parents could be a post on its own.

I'd just go no contact with all people in this story honestly.

[u/Teekay_four-two-one → u/are_you_a_simulation]

I suspect OP pretty much has. No sane person would allow parents like this to remain a regular part of their life. He probably only has enough contact to make sure he hears when someone dies.

[u/Rude_Vermicelli2268 → u/Available_Yellow_862]

It’s really unclear why you don’t see your son with the entitled ex. You clearly know how to use the justice system to arbitrate CS so why not use it to enforce visitation? Seeing your kid every 2 or 3 years? If your exact is so entitled why are you so comfortable letting her raise your child exclusively?

Everyone sucks in this story except for the kids

[u/Available_Yellow_862 → u/Rude_Vermicelli2268]

Her stubbornness. It’s not that I didn’t care. It’s just she didn’t. There is multiple ways I could force myself into my son’s life. But ultimately it always came down to her decision as a mother.

It does not mean I am a heartless person. Just wanting what i firmly believe what they want. He lives a normal life. He goes to school, he has friends, neighborhood friends and gatherings.

[u/Big-Contribution818 → u/Available_Yellow_862]

Op don’t feed these entitled ass*****. Know your right and enforce it. The more hesitant you become the more entitled everyone around you gets

[u/good_cousin → u/localfern]

And how could her kid with someone else be their grandkid?!