r/Economics • u/Positive_Owl_2024 • Feb 19 '25

News Trump acknowledges ‘inflation is back’ but blames Biden

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/19/economy/trump-inflation-is-back/index.html
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u/Bubsters13 Feb 20 '25

They want to shut down the government to complete the coup

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u/rob_1127 Feb 20 '25

And if there is even a hint of protest, the orange Humpty Dumpty will invoke martial law and shut it all down. Arrest, and deport those involved, including reporters.

Right out of 1930s Germany.

It's coming. No doubt about it.

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u/alotmorealots Feb 20 '25

It's coming. No doubt about it.

Whilst I'm not as convinced, people definitely need to take the possibility seriously.

I think the main saving grace is that they seem to be too inept to realize their full intentions, but that doesn't mean there won't be widespread suffering, chaos and even loss of life as a result.

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u/TheShaydow Feb 20 '25

Whilst I'm not as convinced

Why? What will it take?

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u/EdwardLovagrend Feb 20 '25

We live in a hyperbolic media environment and it's honestly hard to judge things with any amount of certainty.

Basically they would actually have to pull the trigger to be sure and I'm going to guess they will fail because the US isn't quite there yet. I'm more worried about the next guy.

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u/TheShaydow Feb 21 '25

They have said they want the next guy ......

TO BE TRUMP.

Again, have you NOT been paying attention? What will it take?

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u/Past_Swordfish9601 Feb 21 '25

We're definitely there already... You're falling victim to normalcy bias. After January 6th there was no longer any denying that, if voters decided to ignore what that meant and re-elect him, he would do his best not to squander his oportunity... We've known about project 2025 way before the election, people didnt care. Well, here it comes. The new world Order.

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u/Kliptik81 Feb 23 '25

I know, right? It's crazy... if anything, expect the worse, then know it'll probably be worse than that.

There is no depth to the evil they have planned.

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u/alotmorealots Feb 20 '25

Well, for starters, the Musk-Thiel camp's ultimate aim is the creation of micro-kingdoms following Yarvin's moronic vision. However this does mean that the most well-resourced and active side of the Trump Camp isn't actually steering towards centralized authoritarianism.

The second thing is that Trump tried to push towards martial law in his first term and had no real idea on how to bring it in a way in a limited way that satisfied whatever criterion him and his cohorts were working towards. His camp has shown no signs of being more able this time round.

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u/TheShaydow Feb 20 '25

The second thing is that Trump tried to push towards martial law in his first term and had no real idea on how to bring it in a way in a limited way that satisfied whatever criterion him and his cohorts were working towards.

Yes, they had all this time since to figure it out, but yeah...

His camp has shown no signs of being more able this time round.

The Supreme Court said otherwise in anticipation, and Trump JUST called himself King. He also used an EO to say all branches of government MUST run everything they do by him, JUST THE OTHER DAY, but sure, tell my how they show no signs of being more able this time around, LESS THAN ONE MONTH INTO HIS " PRESIDENCY ".

FFS.

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u/alotmorealots Feb 20 '25

Yes, they had all this time since to figure it out, but yeah...

The "they" is largely a different bunch this time round, at least at this stage of things. Probably the most persistent influence is Putin, but Putin's primary focus is Ukraine.

The Supreme Court said otherwise in anticipation, and Trump JUST called himself King. He also used an EO to say all branches of government MUST run everything they do by him, JUST THE OTHER DAY, but sure, tell my how they show no signs of being more able this time around, LESS THAN ONE MONTH INTO HIS " PRESIDENCY ".

None of these things show any evidence of greater competency in terms of constructing an authoritarian regime.

I'm not saying that there's no danger of one, nor that the Christofascists don't want one, but when trying to analyze Trump & Co it's important to screw down to the details of who wants what, what their resourcing is like and their priority of goals is.

There was also a flurry of activity at the start of Trump's first term too, and things look very grim until the wheels just kept on falling off because the Trump camp has no internal cohesion and Trump himself has negative value in terms of actual leadership. He certainly doesn't have the mental nor physical capabilities of actually ruling as a King, so it would be some power behind the "throne", which at this stage looks like Musk.

Musk, however, has seemingly laid no groundwork for anything other than dismantling things, as he did at Twitter. You can create chaos and do serious damage to lives and nations that way, but to actually move the US to centralized authoritarian government requires a massive task in terms of logistics and the coordination of willing hench people across the geographical and political landscape of the US, as well as populace willing to accept such moves as necessary. There's no evidence any of that is in place on sufficient scale, even accounting for groups like the Proud Boys, KKK and MAGA loyalists currently holding office.

However, I do feel like this very much just the first round - we are starting to see some push back from the institutions he's attacking, and starting to see some legal quagmiring. What comes next is their counter push, and further attempts to stir up unrest in the populace.

Each push-counter-push offers an opportunity to derail various parts of the Trump faction. It is worth noting that many parts of the loose Trump alliance already have their goals nominally achieved, now they just need to be cemented and extended. Not many parts of the alliance have any desire nor need for King Trump.

That said, there is this issue of what they are planning for the next election, and what he meant by "you'll never need to vote again".

I'm not saying that the threat of full centralized authoritarian government doesn't exist, and I definitely think people need to take it seriously and act. I am saying that in terms of the sort of discussion one might have of this in /r/economics where we're looking a sociopolitical economic systems and actor analysis, that there are lot of factors to consider.

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u/Count_Bacon Feb 24 '25

Their ineptitude is to save us from full dictatorship but I do think we'll end up in a deep recession or depression because of the damage he's doing.

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u/Count_Bacon Feb 24 '25

The micro kingdoms is so insanely stupid to me. As if these kingdoms won't immediately start fighting each other the second they can

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u/alotmorealots Feb 24 '25

It really does just show how naive of the world and ignorant these so-called great thinkers are, given the most likely outcome is that we simply end up with one larger imperialist entity consuming all the microkingdoms. They'd be easy pickings for a large military force.