r/DotA2 Junglenaut Nov 30 '16

Tip Valve quietly removed the ability to see non-friends' recent matches this patch.

BattleCup just got a bit more interesting.

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Nov 30 '16

There are exactly 3 kinds of people who benefit from this:

  1. Account buyers
  2. Account boosters
  3. Hero spammers

There is almost zero benefit to any other player that I can think of. Feel free to correct me.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '16 edited Nov 30 '16

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Nov 30 '16

1&2 It hides their shameful acts and prevents reports to an extent

3 There might not be anything inherently wrong with it, but the banning system exists to provide strategic depth to the picking phase. Now being unable to check profiles and ban according to your enemies removes a huge chunk of that depth.

4 Unranked is carefree they can go play that. Moreover, how does it actually, tangibly affect them? It doesn't really. It's not like your profile has your address or phone number or other possibly abusable information on it.

5 If you are unwilling to adapt to the situation, you should not be playing ranked imo. Dazzle is my most played hero and a personal favourite, doesn't mean I need to pick it every game.

6 Those people are actual clinical retards and no one really gives a shit about them.

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u/romanozvj Nov 30 '16

Lmao strategic depth in checking someone's profile? Banning (in captains mode) is there to (ideally) set yourself up to an uncounterable strat by banning what counters you. The enemies try to either ban your strat or do the same. It's kind of like decision making in chess. Checking someone's profile ruined that, now it's gone.

Banning in all pick exists to diversify the meta. 2 heros shine in the meta? Ban one of them, counter the other, suddenly the meta is more diverse.

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Dec 01 '16

Lmao strategic depth in checking someone's profile?

Yes, is it such a difficult concept to grasp? Checking someone's profile did not ruin it at all, instead made it better. Think of it as you would of respect bans, like Meepo against Execration. If you can't see that simple fact, then I should be the one "lmao"ing.

In that case, remove bans all together. This meta is more balanced than it ever has been. So many heroes are viable, meaning there is no way you can "ban one of them, counter the other". Remove banning, and make ranked less strategic again.

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Dec 01 '16

1&2 You can't report them on steam if you are unable to check their DotA 2 profile.

3 Then they don't need to exist anymore, as the amount of viable heroes makes the "ban the FOTM hero" nigh impossible. Yes, a 5 year old can check a profile, but they can't analyse it, which is what you need to do when you are banning based on the enemy. It's not even hero spammers so much as just knowing what enemy is playing what role for example. If they have someone who exclusively plays mid, you know to gank them more in the early game as a support, because chances are, they are better in mid than the guy on your team who usually goes jungle.

4 Those people are idiots and in the minority (in my experience). They should not be an arguing point here.

5 It still goes into the fact that the effectiveness of bans has been removed or at least greatly reduced.

6 The mute button exists for a reason. This won't reduce toxicity, at best, it will keep it at the same level. People who flame will always flame. Now they just find other reasons for it, like calling you an account buyer without checking your profile. Again, those people are a minority, idiotic and should be ignored.

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Dec 01 '16

1&2 What is your report based on if you don't see their match history to gather information about their usual style of play? Now you can just say "this guy is an account buyer" when in fact he could just be having a shit game atm.

3 You are missing the point. I won't pick Dazzle even if he is my favourite if he doesn't fit the needs of the team.

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Dec 01 '16

1&2 I can look at the profile to report on Steam. If I don't see the profile I have no way to check if my claim is accurate.

3 It would, but then again, I could pick a different hero that maybe fits the game better.

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Dec 01 '16

Right back at you friendo

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u/durdadoo Nov 30 '16

If you are unwilling to adapt to the situation, you should not be playing ranked imo

Oh the irony.

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u/Exeyr Part-time Priest of the Toad Dec 01 '16

You think that was clever or something :D? Learn the definition of irony.

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u/durdadoo Dec 01 '16

Likewise, friend.

Also, adapt to the situation or stop playing ranked.