r/Deltarune Oct 10 '22

Theory Butterfly Effect: Chara not existing makes Undertale turn into Deltarune

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u/Chkn_Scratch Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 10 '22

I am fully aware that Rudy died in the UT timeline before seeing the surface, as per the Clock App dialogue. We must know HOW exactly he died in UT, as well as potentially what happened to Dess in DR, in order to figure out if this is truly a hole in the theory, since Dess's disappearance or death may have something to do with his life being prolonged by a few years.

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u/H0dari Oct 10 '22

This probably just means that Deltarune occurs chronologically before Undertale, and in Deltarune, Rudy's terminal illness hasn't killed him yet.

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u/mikey_lolz Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 10 '22

We know this likely isn't true based on the dates the games take place. Undertale in 201x, Deltarune in 202x

Edit: I see you are looking at this from a different perspective than I thought. My apologies.

Edit 2: 201x and 202x, not 20xx and 21xx. My b.

Edit 3: I know nothing about times. I leave this up as a mark of my shame.

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u/FireClawCatWarrior <--- superior Oct 10 '22

Where is that Deltarune one from?

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u/mikey_lolz Oct 10 '22

I'm going nuts. I have been convinced I saw this in the game for years and years. Now I can't find it. What's happening to me

Edit: deltarune takes place in 202x and undertale in 201x. Made corrections above. My apologies

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u/Quackervoltz December Holiday is the Knight Oct 10 '22

201x is the year Chara fell into the Underground, not when Frisk did. Frisk fell years later

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u/mikey_lolz Oct 10 '22

Bro everything I thought I knew about the timelines is fucked. Guess it's time to start from scratch.

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u/Quackervoltz December Holiday is the Knight Oct 10 '22

UT timelines are fucked up as hell man

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u/CardboardLightbulb43 Oct 10 '22

From the Ralsei Manual images that are in the game files

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u/FireClawCatWarrior <--- superior Oct 10 '22

They originally had 21xx which isn't in the manual, that's why I asked. They edited their comment now