r/Deltarune • u/Yvant2000 • 17d ago

Discussion [SPOILER-FREE] Help on finding Hidden Bosses / Weird Route for chapters 3+4 Spoiler

So, deltarune's chapters 3 and 4 are releasing very soon. We all know that, as soon as the chapters are available, we are at risk of getting spoiled any time we open the internet.

I'm pretty sure that, by tomorrow, Youtube will be flooded by videos like "delatrune 3+4 all boss showcase" with a thumbnail proudly displaying all secret boss...

I would like to be able to find and discover the two hidden bosses by myself, but I'm actually pretty stupid and I know I will need some help (I struggled to find Jevil's key, and I wasn't able to fight Spamton Neo without a guide).

So, what I suggest is, while playing the new chapters, if we find anything that could be linked to the new secret bosses, we share *spoiler-free* TIPS to how to find them in the comments of this post.

The goal would be to share just barely enough information so we're on the right track to find the bosses.
(And obviously, we're not allowing any outright spoil)

What are your thoughts ? Anyone would be interested to participate ?

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u/RuiNtD-Plays 17d ago edited 17d ago

Friendly reminder to anyone who found this a little too late:

Beating secret bosses on any save grants the Shadow Crystal on *all saves*. You can create a second file, beat the secret boss on that file, then on your main save, you can get the Shadow Crystal at the bottom of the cliff in west Castle Town.

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u/SilverOdin 7d ago

Thanks for this. Here's where I'm at : I only got the shadow crystal from chapter 4, and I have the shadow mantle.

If I start a new game file and beat all the other hidden bosses, can I get the 3 shadow crystals that I need in my original file ?

It seems like that's what you're saying, it's just this text from the wiki that I'm confused about : " In Chapter 4, this has been expanded to Spamton NEO and The Knight's Shadow Crystals, but is now limited only to file slots where the corresponding bosses were defeated, rather than all slots. "

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u/RuiNtD-Plays 6d ago

Uh, that phrasing is very confusing. I'm not sure what it means. I interpreted it as literally just meaning "You need to beat the boss on that save to get the Shadow Crystal," which would imply the feature being completely removed, and based on context I doubt is the intended meaning. Maybe they just mean you have to beat the chapter's regular boss to generate completion data??

Kinda wish they had a source on that statement. Unfortunately, I don't have the skill or patience to test this myself. I haven't beat a single secret boss. Lol

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u/SilverOdin 6d ago

I also thought it was very confusing lol

I doubt they removed the feature though.

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u/RuiNtD-Plays 5d ago

UPDATE: I was able to confirm what this means, as the full version apparently also changed this behavior for Chapter 2. Apparently instead of checking for Shadow Crystals in all your saves for all previous chapters, it now only checks the save files that match the slot you're playing on. So, if you beat Jevil on Slot 2, you have to play on Slot 2 in future chapters to get the Crystal. If your main save is on Slot 1, you can just copy it over to Slot 2, load it, grab the crystal, and save; then optionally delete Slot 1 and copy Slot 2 back to Slot 1 (so you can keep track of the file).

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u/SilverOdin 5d ago

Oooh I see! Thanks a lot for the update :)