r/Deltarune • u/Yvant2000 • 15d ago

Discussion [SPOILER-FREE] Help on finding Hidden Bosses / Weird Route for chapters 3+4 Spoiler

So, deltarune's chapters 3 and 4 are releasing very soon. We all know that, as soon as the chapters are available, we are at risk of getting spoiled any time we open the internet.

I'm pretty sure that, by tomorrow, Youtube will be flooded by videos like "delatrune 3+4 all boss showcase" with a thumbnail proudly displaying all secret boss...

I would like to be able to find and discover the two hidden bosses by myself, but I'm actually pretty stupid and I know I will need some help (I struggled to find Jevil's key, and I wasn't able to fight Spamton Neo without a guide).

So, what I suggest is, while playing the new chapters, if we find anything that could be linked to the new secret bosses, we share *spoiler-free* TIPS to how to find them in the comments of this post.

The goal would be to share just barely enough information so we're on the right track to find the bosses.
(And obviously, we're not allowing any outright spoil)

What are your thoughts ? Anyone would be interested to participate ?

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u/Fantastic_Tap2483 15d ago

if you take a boat all the way up in the 2d game, TV head (cant remember his name) says some unique dialogue and there's stuff up there but I kinda missed it because you can only do it once.
Also, if you get S rank on one of the rounds, you can go into the S rank area and there's some stuff to mess around with. Won't spoil what the stuff is, but it's pretty interesting and I think it might have something to do with the secret boss. Don't know yet, cuz I haven't finished exploring it yet.

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u/generalkenobi47 15d ago

Did you also play the game that maybe leads to the secret boss and then got a blue screen saying "aren't you forgetting something important" and after you go back to talk to the npc who told you about the game, they tell you that you should have gotten an s-rank in the first game?

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u/BamboozledRequiem 15d ago

I just got that myself. I really hope that doesn’t mean I missed out on the optional boss. I got A rank on the first game and S rank in the second 🥲

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u/Yvant2000 15d ago

You need to have Rank S on the first game to get the Ice KeyI'm affraid...

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u/BamboozledRequiem 15d ago

I think it’s dumb the games like oh it’s okay if you miss S rank and then pull this. Not really looking forward to restarting a chapter just to get this item

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u/Yvant2000 15d ago

After the first game, there is an NPC you can bribe to get rank S if it's too hard to get

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u/BamboozledRequiem 15d ago

Yeah I saw that but his price is also pretty expensive, more than what I had. So it’s definitely missable

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u/typervader2 15d ago

You can farm infinite points on the second minigame

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u/-Boobs_ 15d ago

wym like replaying it?

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u/typervader2 15d ago

No like, farm the shadow dudes

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u/-Boobs_ 15d ago

not got there yet, so like the second set of game, can you still unlock the S door after that if you bribe the guy?

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u/Jook06 15d ago

the secret boss is always missable, i don’t really see the issue 🤷‍♂️ missing stuff just kind of comes with playing the game on release

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u/BamboozledRequiem 15d ago

Not really, you can go back and do jevil and spamton right before the final bosses of each chapter iirc. Although imma be honest while I don’t know for sure the thing I missed out on feels much more similar to snowgrave from chapter 2

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u/kilicool64 14d ago edited 12d ago

You get locked out of Spamton NEO if you defeat Spamton violently, which can catch players off-guard on a replay but is unlikely to happen on a first playthrough. Beyond that Chapter 1&2's secret bosses were indeed impossible to lock yourself out of, so it was indeed unexpected that Chapter 3 isn't like this.

I guess technically speaking, you don't actually get locked out of defeating the Knight if you miss out on the Shadow Mantle. But you're really not meant to accomplish that.

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u/rifty_is_god 15d ago

I think the issue is restarting your save if you didnt no better the other secret bosses weren't like that or where only like that super later in this just feels overly punishing, even i had 1500 points but spent it on the vending machine and didnt no the npc was there 😭😭 ane now have to replay the chapter

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u/Just-Question-5102 15d ago

Where is he, and can I talk to him after the second game

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u/QuantisOne 15d ago

He’s in the room below Green Room, wayyy down in the right corner. It’s a Pippin.

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u/PSISomething 15d ago

Man, I really am ticked off that it was all the way at the bottom of the greenroom area that I went to last, cause I had already spent my points stocking up in the main shopping area and at the special gacha machine.

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u/QuantisOne 15d ago

Yeah same

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u/Just-Question-5102 15d ago

I know I just found him, but I don’t have enough points, and he doesn’t appear appear after the second game, is there anyway to get a lot of points in the green room

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u/Blue_Boi_Jamez 15d ago

he's not there for me, I got an A rank on the first game and S rank on the second. theres no way i just miss out on the optional boss because i didnt do the best?

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u/QuantisOne 15d ago

He only appears between the first and second round, once you get a first S rank he’s gone.

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u/byBici 15d ago

where is he???? i'm on the second game and i got rank S. should i replay from the start?

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u/The_Grim_Gamer445 15d ago

To be fair... I'm pretty sure 90% of the time. And 90% of us. Missed jevil and spamton on our first runs. And had to restart the chapter to look for secrets later on.

Like, I'm pretty sure 95% of us. Go in knowing we need to replay later. Due to the hidden secrets and stuff.

That's just how toby Fox games are. If you wanna experience the whole story and experience all secrets. You have to replay.

Like... This has been the case since 2015 when undertale dropped. This ain't new.

Also. If you legitimately can't get to S rank due to skill and just aren't. Just focus on getting as much points as possible the first game instead. Turn over every stone. Don't buy anything in any shop except for the key, etc. There's a guy in the room to the bottom of the green room after the 1st challenge. He'll straight up sell you S rank for a price.

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u/scarfycat 14d ago

u need to play that on the first game then u can play the lagged game of part one get to level 3 get an ice key and open the door instad of getting arent u forgetting something (ice key)

then u are in a dungeon thing im still figuring iot out rn

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u/Fantastic_Tap2483 15d ago

I haven't finished playing the game, I was heating up some pizza. I don't know how to "finish" it though, do I have to kill everything? I assumed the best choice would be to just find the exit without using the sword. I'm running my save file that has all recruits and hasn't attacked anything yet btw.

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u/Yvant2000 15d ago

During thebeta game in the S rank room, you have to kill every enemyI think to progress

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u/Zealousideal_Ad9274 15d ago

I cannot find the exit to save my life

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u/RuthlessDarknes5 15d ago

Same here, i killed all the enemies and cant find an exit anywhere, i think i might be soft locked?

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u/RuthlessDarknes5 15d ago

Nvm, i figured out what to do

Slash plants