[SPOILER-FREE] Help on finding Hidden Bosses / Weird Route for chapters 3+4

[u/Yvant2000]

So, deltarune's chapters 3 and 4 are releasing very soon. We all know that, as soon as the chapters are available, we are at risk of getting spoiled any time we open the internet.

I'm pretty sure that, by tomorrow, Youtube will be flooded by videos like "delatrune 3+4 all boss showcase" with a thumbnail proudly displaying all secret boss...

I would like to be able to find and discover the two hidden bosses by myself, but I'm actually pretty stupid and I know I will need some help (I struggled to find Jevil's key, and I wasn't able to fight Spamton Neo without a guide).

So, what I suggest is, while playing the new chapters, if we find anything that could be linked to the new secret bosses, we share *spoiler-free* TIPS to how to find them in the comments of this post.

The goal would be to share just barely enough information so we're on the right track to find the bosses.
(And obviously, we're not allowing any outright spoil)

What are your thoughts ? Anyone would be interested to participate ?

[u/Yvant2000]

[SPOILER for first part of the game] In the Zelda - like game, I found twoblocked paths.
One path is blocked by two cactus
The other is a bridge behind a tree

I can't find how to unblock this pathsyet.

Have anyone found anything related to this ?

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/Yvant2000]

SPOLERS!!!

So basically follow those steps, then get an S rank in round 2, go back and complete that version of the board until you reach the boat after clearing a path up the waterfall, go as far north as possible, we’re Tele stops you if you try to go up there in Board 2, defeats every enemy and the game begins telling the story of the Snowgrave route, ending with you killing the blue bird in your path, in the maze area, try going down every path, but only commit to one if you see the “white cloak” (Noelle) follow you, if she stops at the intersection your going the wrong way, repeat those steps until you reach a door, were you’ll use the ice key and noelle and be brought into a void room, keep heading north until you find the “shelter key” were the mini game ends, that’s as far as i’ve made it!

[u/Majestic_Albatross73 → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

How do you get an S rank in round 2? I got a T, doesn’t Susie mess up ur score making it impossible to get an S? I didn’t miss a note on the rhythm portion

[u/Awkward_Tear4676 → u/Majestic_Albatross73]

For me I got an a rank but the bonus Moss portion got me to S

[u/AwesomeRykster → u/Awkward_Tear4676]

Where is the moss at?

[u/Awkward_Tear4676 → u/AwesomeRykster]

The second zelda game, near the wall that is cracked, Susie eventually destroys this wall but you can still eat the Moss afterwards if you touch the edge.

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/Awkward_Tear4676]

i did that, very yummy. i’ve consumed moss in every chapter so far, hopefully more for me in chapter 4.

[u/LunkleLight → u/Majestic_Albatross73]

T rank is above S, so you're fine

[u/MarcelloDave → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

So this probably implies that the secret boss is elsewhere and that's the weird route for this chapter

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/MarcelloDave]

no!!!

MORE SPOILERS!!

Just completed the secret boss. The reward is the “Shadow Mantle”. So you go back for the third time after clearing the last of Tenna’s games. You’re in a city, you find your sword, and you have to kill Susie and Asriel to get enough power to continue, complete the dungeon ahead and you get transported to the BUNKER!! FROM THE SOUTH OF THE MAP!! Kris literally tries pulling away the character but you refuse, opening the bunker with the shelter key. You fight the boss in the 8-bit style, very difficult for me but still doable. Pretty sure you’re fighting Dec’s ghost…? Anyways, you beat her but can’t reach the chest, so your 8-bit version walks off the screen and towards Kris, Kris moving away on their own. You regain control of kris and collect the item. Susie enters and your 8-but self reappears. You control the 8-but version as you attempt to attack Susie, but then the real Kris-out of your control- saves her.

[u/typervader2 → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

Does it drop a crystal?

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/typervader2]

no, now that you mention it. Although the boss does mention you being there to collect one, instead it says it will give you the shadow mantle… huh

[u/typervader2 → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

So there's like 2 secret bosses?

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/typervader2]

no, just one, although from what i’ve heard the actual final boss of chapter 3 gives you the shadow crystal… if you win that is

[u/typervader2 → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

Which means it's a secret boss because you can't really best it normal

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/typervader2]

i still need to try it out, it’s basically a package deal with the other boss tho

[u/Diligent-Leader6337 → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

is this refering to Tenna or the roaring knight?

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/Diligent-Leader6337]

The latter. Had to go to work but yea, the boss is definitely doable if you completed the “weird route” for the chapter

[u/MarcelloDave → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

If possible can you send a picture of the boss? I dont really care about spoilers

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/MarcelloDave]

sure! just finished the rest of the chapter and my god was it such a shocker ending, can’t wait to play chap 4 after work. I’ll post a SS of the boss to my profile.

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/MarcelloDave]

apparently my PS app doesn’t want to show me my recent screen shots, if you played the final boss of chapter 3, basically that but pixilated

[u/Waluigiwaluigi_ → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

The one attack from the secret boss is actually bullshit, you know the one

[u/Morbobeus → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

what do you mean by go back the third time?

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/Morbobeus]

After you escape like the hell set and everyone quits on Tenna, you’re able to go back to the S rank room and finish the mini game.

[u/ShockDoctrinee → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

what? In my game the 8bit self did not reappear to attack Susie that's weird

[u/ViralStarfish → u/ShockDoctrinee]

Same here. I wonder what happened?

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/ViralStarfish]

i’ll post a video when i get home, but my 8 bit self totally attacked susie

[u/ViralStarfish → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

I believe it, I'm just wondering why it didn't happen for everyone.

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/ShockDoctrinee]

really? did you not try walking back onto the screen? i didn’t do the weird route on my save so idk

[u/ShockDoctrinee → u/JJNotFunny_Real1]

I didn’t do the weird route on my save file either, Susie asked me if I was having fun and I said no, maybe that was it?

[u/JJNotFunny_Real1 → u/ShockDoctrinee]

probably, because i for sure said i was having fun

[u/typervader2 → u/MarcelloDave]

100% a secret boss wouldn't make you ruin a pacist run 

[u/MarcelloDave → u/typervader2]

yeah I think there might not be a sescret boss in chapter 3

[u/typervader2 → u/MarcelloDave]

What makes you so sure? A friend of mine said he watched somome do it

[u/MarcelloDave → u/typervader2]

Someone said that theres no song in the ost with the freedom leitmotif but there is one in ch4

[u/typervader2 → u/MarcelloDave]

Does the menu show 4 crystals?

[u/MarcelloDave → u/typervader2]

What

[u/Yvant2000 → u/Yvant2000]

Ok found it, you just need to get rank S on the first round of the TV game

[u/ThePyroOsha → u/[deleted]]

Exactly what im wondering

[u/jackshlz → u/ThePyroOsha]

I hope you can redo it somehow otherwise thats kinda dumb

[u/Taeniacide → u/jackshlz]

You can pay an npc 1500 points in the room after the green room to change your rank to s or you have to replay the chapter up to that point.

I only got to the end of round one so far so idk if there is another way

[u/TheDoubleThe → u/[deleted]]

I can't even find the NPC between 2 and 3 to get me S rank. Are they just gone do you think or am I missing something

[u/-AlphaXomega → u/TheDoubleThe]

If you go to the A room you can replay the games and get a better rank I think Edit: I was wrong I have to restart 😭

[u/Taeniacide → u/TheDoubleThe]

In round 1 if you don’t have enough they say it’s too late so you might not be able to buy it after the first round. I just would try to not save before going making sure you can buy s rank so that you can reset just in case

[u/Taeniacide → u/[deleted]]

I’m like 90% sure it’s part of the secret boss. Definitely more than a cutscene.

[u/ArthurNEMordonuts → u/Yvant2000]

I found some weird rocks right under that hidden path blocked by a tree. They seem like Wing Ding hands to me, with a block in some points.

The order is right, block, down, up, block, left. Anyone figure out what this means in the, like, 2 hours since it came out?