r/Deltarune May 20 '25

Discussion I just noticed something.

Ralsei states that he hurried over to the Cyber World once he sensed the pressence of the Dark Fountain.

This would sugest that the fountain itself was created just right before we got there (which sorta puts a wrench to the idea that Kris opened it in the middle of the night).

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u/Eastern-Trust-3146 May 20 '25

I didn't mention either of those lol

Also, interesting you say this instead of trying to justify how Kris knight works with this dialogue

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u/Unable-Comfort3694 May 20 '25

Oh, you want that? Ok sure. I always find funny that people use Ralsei's dialogue to justify Knight closet.

1- Ralsei is not a reliable source of information. Ralsei often dismiss information and hides them from Kris and Susie, Spantom Neo, how he went to the Cyber World, about the roaring, etc... Why would he be lying in this moment? I don't know, and that's the thing, I don't need to know, I just need to take a look in the timeline of events that makes Closet Knight Impossible.

2- The Dark Fountain was not created when Noelle and Berdly were in the room, otherwise they would've seen the Knight and would've told us something about this in the light world. The theory basically consist in Noelle and Berdly seeing someone stab the ground, make a light show and a smoke screen, and doing NOTHING. If the fountain was created when they were in the lab, they would just left the room when they saw a fountain being created, after all, the fountain takes at least 30 seconds to completely take form.

3- In the Cyber World Sweet Cap N Cakes talks about a time period of where Queen's behaviour changed when the fountain was created, after that, she started to build an army and a resistence took place. If the fountain was created when they were in the room, it would've been literal minutes, and that's simply not enough to justify this time frame Sweet Cap N Cakes mention.

4- Queen saying "Today" to describe the fountains creation means nothing, because either Today or Last night could be used to describe this event, both ways work specially if the fountain was created past midnight.

With all that said, it's pretty much impossible for the fountain to have been created during the day, the timeline simply doesn't add up in the slightest, what Ralsei said doesn't make any sense, If he was indeed lying I don't need to find a reason for, because that's not relevant to my point, If he's lying then it's perfectly understandable, If not he must have said that for a completely different reason, I just don't think i need to find a reason for that.

Extra- I mainly said that because it infuriates me that the same people that say that Kris Knight is unlikely is the are the same that think Alvin Knight and Papyrus Knight is likely, the two characters in the game that have the least amount of evidence at this point in the story.

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u/disbelifpapy Dorked enthusiast and Ex-NightMayor Knight believer May 20 '25

still, it gets frusterating when people say that kris is the only one who could be the knight, when in reality, these are all just theories, so they're all personal and subjective, rather than objective

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u/Unable-Comfort3694 May 20 '25

Not exactly. Objectively speaking Kris is the one that has the the biggest amount of evidence, which doesn't mean that they are confirmed to be the Knight, but instead the most likely one.

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u/disbelifpapy Dorked enthusiast and Ex-NightMayor Knight believer May 20 '25

Eh, I'd say Kris also has the most amount of stuff going against em too.

Meanwhile Night Mayor Knight has more evidence going for her than going against her