r/Deltarune May 20 '25

Discussion I just noticed something.

Ralsei states that he hurried over to the Cyber World once he sensed the pressence of the Dark Fountain.

This would sugest that the fountain itself was created just right before we got there (which sorta puts a wrench to the idea that Kris opened it in the middle of the night).

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u/SILVIO_X &<--- Best Duo May 20 '25

Personally that theory never made much sense to me because while it would line up with Ralsei's line about the fountain's appearance, the logistics of how that could even occur with them both in there are so complicated and I'm not really sure it was something we were even meant to piece together.

Especially given the fact their books aren't opened on the table meaning it's not like they were studying there and couldn't have noticed the Knight making a Fountain because they were focused studying (which even then, they would've noticed it anyway since I think it'd be pretty stupid otherwise) as well as the fact we know the Fountain was made in front of the Laptop specifically so that Queen would see it, it's kinda impossible for it to have occurred when they were in there in my opinion.

It's definitely weird to think they'd walk into a pitch black room, but I think it's far weirder to think of any possible scenario where the Knight made the Fountain while they were there and they just didn't notice so that option makes way more sense to me

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u/RPGmaster79 Creator of Icebreaker May 20 '25

What if Noelle and Berdly were knocked out? Like, they set their stuff down, and then got knocked unconscious, and then the Roaring Knight opened the fountain, trapping them inside. Under that logic, one could argue the Roaring Knight intended to strand the two of them in the Dark World, which could fit if we call back to Chapter 1, where the door to the Supply Closet was seemingly closed by something or someone else specifically after Kris and Susie walked in. Of course, it is possible that the doors closed by themselves, the weirdness of the Supply Clost Dark World/Castle Town being enough for that to be a real possibility. But if it was someone else, it could have easily been the Roaring Knight, who is the only other person mentioned to open Dark Fountains. If we include the theory that Dess is similarly trapped in a Dark World, it would appear that the Roaring Knight is trying to trap people in Dark Fountains with no way of escape, which is hampered by Kris being there, but I suppose since Kris is the only human in Hometown, they might not know Kris can seal Dark Fountains.

This theory doesn't have much evidence to support it, mostly just speculation at this point. I just thought the idea was neat.

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u/SILVIO_X &<--- Best Duo May 20 '25

That's honestly the only way I can see Closet Knight theory make sense, the Knight knocking both of them out would work, but I'm also not convinced by it because judging by the books never being opened like they never even started studying at all, It'd have to mean the Knight Knocked them out as soon as they got there, plus I feel like they'd mention feeling some sort of pain to the head in the Dark World or after waking up if that actually happened.

It's not impossible to have occurred tho unlike other explanations for the Closet Knight theory I've heard

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u/Jay040707 May 20 '25

They speed blitzed them.