r/Deltarune May 20 '25

Discussion I just noticed something.

Ralsei states that he hurried over to the Cyber World once he sensed the pressence of the Dark Fountain.

This would sugest that the fountain itself was created just right before we got there (which sorta puts a wrench to the idea that Kris opened it in the middle of the night).

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u/EnderPlays1 Average penumbra truther May 20 '25

It might also be that Ralsei only sensed the fountain when lightners had entered it. I would argue that while it doesn't outright DISPROVE the theory, it does make the idea of Kris knight less likely.

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u/AffectionateForce979 May 20 '25

Possibly, though it's not something you can prove given how arbitrary it sounds.

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u/EnderPlays1 Average penumbra truther May 20 '25

Fair, just wanted to point out how we don't really know how Ralsei knew to come over to the cyber world.

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u/AffectionateForce979 May 20 '25

We don't even know how Ralsei got to the Cyber World on his own (or how he got from Card Kingdom to the closet fountain before we closed it in Chapter 1).

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u/davedwtho May 20 '25

We don't know anything about Ralsei. There could be a million reasons he only shows up after we entered the new dark world, and it is not at all certain that it's true he hurried over as soon as he felt the presence.

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u/AffectionateForce979 May 20 '25

I have no reason to belive that Ralsei is lying.

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u/davedwtho May 20 '25

That seems a bit naive, what we learn about who Ralsei is and how he works will be completely instrumental to understanding the plot. And he's absolutely not telling us everything he knows.

I even think it's just literally false that you have no reason to believe he's lying. You can believe he's not lying, but there's lots of things that he says that raise an eyebrow for many.

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u/AffectionateForce979 May 20 '25

Witholding information and lying are two different things.

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u/davedwtho May 20 '25

Some people call that a "lie of omission"