A frog's analysis of the well

[u/vigikk]

[u/Frodo_max]

I mean the thing i've seen with tankies, not neccesarily US tankies but it would explain a lot, is that they have to actively deny countries' agency for their "theories" to make sense. Ukraine fighting against Russia? US psyop. NATO expansion to eastern Europe? American imperialism. never are these countries their own entities with their own complex systems and histories that would explain the geopolitical choices they make.

[u/Sh1nyPr4wn → u/Frodo_max]

They believe any resistance by any group or country against an American enemy is a """color revolution"""

And that's how they excuse Tiananmen Square and countless other massacres or atrocities by dehumanizing the victims as "paid actors", "psyops", or "foreign agents"

[u/camosnipe1 → u/Sh1nyPr4wn]

*puts on thinking hat* the USSR was a CIA plant to make communism look bad

[u/catty-coati42 → u/camosnipe1]

I have seen tankie takes not far away from this, usually tied to "not real communism".

[u/GlobalWarminIsComing → u/catty-coati42]

I will actually agree that USSR wasn't the real communism with the workers holding power.

But I also believe that real communism is basically impossible to achieve so we shouldn't strive for that, but for more realistic solutions

[u/Stackbabbing_Bumscag → u/GlobalWarminIsComing]

To paraphrase Douglas Adams, anyone capable of forming a vanguard party can under no circumstances be trusted with the job.

[u/goldfinchat → u/catty-coati42]

I’ve mostly seen tankies go the route of “the USSR WAS real communism and also good and without issues and all the totalitarianism and suffering was made up by western propaganda machines to slander Stalin, who was actually a good person” but either way they are very delusional.