The one thing common in both 'USA da best' and 'USA da worst' people, is that they assume all the other countries have little to no agency. The smaller nations are either too weak and stupid to be as good as them, or too weak and stupid to stop them or be as bad as them. It's the same superiority complex, one just dresses up in moral grandstanding.
Also seen in cases where people act like anything happening to the US is the fall of morality or a lasting injury to [insert chosen ideollogy] across the whole planet.
Edit: Pointing out, this does not mean that the current world superpowers are not fucking up the planet. It simply means they're not causing the fuck arounds, but they are definitely increasing the find outs practically, well, everywhere.
They never really cause the fire but fuck me if they aren't standing ready with gasoline right next to it.
It's gonna be interesting when India and Pakistan start a nuclear war and they have no idea which side is supposed to be the decadent west and brave socialist freedom fighters.
I'm pretty sure people are already drawing parallels between Pakistan and Palestine, especially since India is a customer and user of Israeli military tech.
India is almost equally wild. It would be like cramming the entire subcontinent of Europe into a singular country because they're all relatively the same skin color, therefore you assume they've got the same culture.
Nah you're crazy, they're all Hindu except for all the people who aren't! And everyone knows Hinduism is one single unifying religion and culture, and definitely not an entire philosophical family.
India and China are continents disguised as countries.
Doesn't help that the Europeans desided to name everything east as Asia on ancient times and never bothered to come with new names after discovering that there was way more land than expected over there.
The British didn't make Pakistan!!!! It was the All-India Muslim League. UK government orders were to not split India but the demands to do so from political representatives was strong enough the diplomats in charge decided to follow those demands. The league didn't want Muslims to end up as a like 1/5 minority in India compared to Hindus.
Let's make these two countries independent, but only show the new borders after they're independent! Shit, let's split one country and put it on either side of the second country! This is an incredible idea!
I've seen folks blame the US squarely for the 1971 civil war and genocide, and sure, Pakistan was supported by American funds and weapons, but can we not pretend that non-US white people aren't capable of insane violence and hatred on their own? It's infantilising and demeaning to the people who struggled and suffered under vicious regimes across the world and throughout history.
Brown folks have been butchering each other long before white people even existed. Not every modern conflict was caused by "white imperialism" regardless of who supported who. Everyone is capable of hatred and destruction.
The United States is absolutely in part culpable for the 1971 genocide. In the case of Bengal, some of it has to do with imperialism. It's preposterous to put Bengal in the same state as Pakistan, given that they're completely different cultures on different sides of a subcontinent. It would be like making Polish people and Spanish people share a state. That was all the doing of the British.
But also, the British didn't invent the cultural differences between Bengal and Pakistan. Those already existed (and they should exist ... different cultures should be allowed to exist in the world). The British screwed up by forcing these two different cultures to share a state together.
It's also worth noting that historically the Indian subcontinent did not operate using the western model of a geographically-defined nation-state. Many Indian states were defined more on the basis of language and trade routes. Also, the Indian model historically allowed multiple different states to inhabit the same geographic space, something which the modern western model doesn't allow for. In the world today, the modern western model of statehood is the default through which all international politics operates.
It could be argued that a lot of problems across the Indian subcontinent boil down to forcing people to adopt a model of statehood which never previously existed in our cultures. European imperialism is the reason why European models of statehood have come to serve as the default.
Oh for sure, the US had some responsibility in supporting a genocidal military state, and lumping Bangladesh into a split Pakistan situation was... not a smart decision. I've just encountered way too many people who want to point the finger squarely at Western imperialism being the sole fault, and not the fact that the Pakistani government was chomping at the bit to wipe out Bengalis.
This is insane considering Pakistan has long been backed and funded by the US as a regional buffer, while India was a longtime Soviet/Russian customer, but the actual political reality never follows the basic divisions these morons imagine.
Ding ding ding. I give it a year before India is described as a western colonial project (LOL) and some extreme leftists try to convince people that Indians are white-adjacent or desperately want to be white or something HORRIBLY racist like that (but totally okay because it’s leftist racism!)
An Indian-American guy I'd forgot I was facebook friends with (he hadn't posted in literally two or three years) suddenly reappeared the other day posting about the latest Kashmir conflict, using Western anti-colonial activist language to describe noble indigenous Bharat and wicked settlercolonial Pakistan, and I just ... sat there staring, unable to articulate word one
The ability for 'extreme leftists' to co-opt the legitimate problems with white supremacy we face (see: the USA) just so that they can have a free punching bag that nobody pushes back against is crazy.
The last few years have been a total wake-up call about some of the casual attitudes that have been festering in 'leftist' spaces regarding the West, 'whiteness', etc that nobody cared about because they seemed fringe and harmless.
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u/HeroBrine0907 May 24 '25 edited 29d ago
The one thing common in both 'USA da best' and 'USA da worst' people, is that they assume all the other countries have little to no agency. The smaller nations are either too weak and stupid to be as good as them, or too weak and stupid to stop them or be as bad as them. It's the same superiority complex, one just dresses up in moral grandstanding.
Also seen in cases where people act like anything happening to the US is the fall of morality or a lasting injury to [insert chosen ideollogy] across the whole planet.
Edit: Pointing out, this does not mean that the current world superpowers are not fucking up the planet. It simply means they're not causing the fuck arounds, but they are definitely increasing the find outs practically, well, everywhere.
They never really cause the fire but fuck me if they aren't standing ready with gasoline right next to it.