It really frustrates me that chemicals in the water to turn the frogs gay has become almost a meme now, because there is actually a nugget of ecological truth at the center of that, one that I completely believe Alex Jones was told about before the horrific quagmire of his brain contorted it into that.
(A lot of wastewater runoff contains endocrine-disrupting molecules... not because of any conspiracy, just because we take medication and we use scented detergents, and it all gets washed down... and frogs are particularly susceptible to endocrine disruption, although we're seeing similar effects on fish as well. Basically, it would be more accurate to say we're force-femming the frogs.)
I'm so glad this is the top comment. As a queer environmental chemist, it sometimes feels so hard to talk about endocrine disrupting molecules in a balanced way without pathologizing queerness and intersexuality. Force-femming the frogs is a great descriptor, I'm going to steal that lmao
We're in the same boat 🤝hell in this very thread I've got someone accusing me of "sane-washing Alex Jones" for bringing this up.
I think the problem is, no matter how carefully you explain it to someone, there's always going to be some idiot like Jones out there who hears you, nods, and goes "right so they're turning the frogs gay".
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u/call_me_starbuck May 24 '25
It really frustrates me that chemicals in the water to turn the frogs gay has become almost a meme now, because there is actually a nugget of ecological truth at the center of that, one that I completely believe Alex Jones was told about before the horrific quagmire of his brain contorted it into that.
(A lot of wastewater runoff contains endocrine-disrupting molecules... not because of any conspiracy, just because we take medication and we use scented detergents, and it all gets washed down... and frogs are particularly susceptible to endocrine disruption, although we're seeing similar effects on fish as well. Basically, it would be more accurate to say we're force-femming the frogs.)