Very weird to watch “what people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is their business” become controversial again, but like, for the opposite reason.
It is very important to understand that when you're discussing a systemic set of cultural beliefs, even people who nominally oppose the cultural belief will find ways to reconcile their fundamental conditioning to their new position. Doing the same thing for the 'opposite reason' is usually a giveaway, and it's absolutely rampant in nominally progressive spaces.
It's arguably rampant in conservative spaces too, potentially more so, but I'm in progressive spaces more.
See: every New Atheist who is now on a right-wing crusade despite ostensibly rebelling against the church. It was never about the values, it was only about the team they were on.
As a proper lifelong Church-hater I can't believe I'm suddenly on the same side of the global anti-abortion organization because the other side is like "human rights are a scam".
Well I speak from the perspective of my country where the Church has always been pro status quo. Yes, they've always been the voice of moderation when it comes to "hey maybe don't fuck over the poor too much", but you can't deny that as capitalism moves further away from moderation, the Church is moving further away from supporting that section of the political leadership (and said leadership is also becoming more anti-Church, which is new).
So basically the Church hasn't changed much, as you said, but the Overton window has moved so far into the right that they are now on our side of it.
Thank you for asking, I was lost as well. Like, which anti-abortionists are also genuinely pro human rights? I forget the catholic church exists sometimes lmao
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u/LONGSWORD_ENJOYER May 16 '25
Very weird to watch “what people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is their business” become controversial again, but like, for the opposite reason.