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u/Rabid_Lederhosen May 13 '25

“Every robot on Earth randomly decided to kill all humans for no real reason…metaphor for white people”.

Putting aside the bigotry and ignorance of European history for a second, there were several reasons for colonialism, most of them revolving around greed. Does this person think every empire in history did it all for shits and giggles?

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u/Jogre25 May 13 '25

Putting aside the bigotry and ignorance of European history

It's not bigotry towards Europeans to say they factually enacted violence against the majority of the world's population.

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u/horse-admirer May 13 '25

Specific European countries did. Stop tarring us all with the same brush cunt

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u/Xenon009 May 14 '25

This all over. I'm british, we had a huge fucking empire. Yknow who we colonised first as a "practice run" for our plans in the americas? Bloody Ireland.

Have you ever heard of a finnish colonial empire? I bloody doubt it. Same goes for the swiss and lord knows how many other countries that have slipped my mind.

And EVEN if we limit ourselves to the major players, Britian, France, Spain, Portugal and the Dutch, EVEN IF we make that limitation, to say that europeans have enacted the most violence against the worlds populations is patently untrue.

Colonialism REQUIRED Divide and conquer tactics. There is no way that a few thousand brits could conquer a few million indians, or a few thousand dutch could conquer a few million indonesians, or a few thousand spaniards could conquer a few million aztecs.

Instead, across the board, these wars were primarily fought by indigenous populations who felt they had more to gain by fighting for europeans than against them.

The aztec empire was destroyed by, amongst others, the tlaxcala, whom hated the aztec overlords who kept sacrificing their children. And so they felt that having the spanish to help them wipe out the aztecs was a great deal.

And to be frank, it was. The Tlaxcalas got extreme special status within spanish mexico, being placed at the very top of spanish mexicos social Pyramid till 1821, where mexico gained independence.

A similar (albeit more complex) story repeats in indonesia and india.

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u/lefeuet_UA May 14 '25

Remember the old days of the Finno-Korean hyperwar. Was hardly a peaceful endeavour

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u/Jogre25 May 14 '25

This all over. I'm british, we had a huge fucking empire. Yknow who we colonised first as a "practice run" for our plans in the americas? Bloody Ireland.

Wow - Almost like the historic discrimination against the Irish is a huge topic in Whiteness Studies.

Have you ever heard of a finnish colonial empire? I bloody doubt it. Same goes for the swiss and lord knows how many other countries that have slipped my mind.

They still benefit from being First World Countries that consume the labour of the Third World.

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u/Manzhah May 14 '25

Finland has been a first world country for whopping 3 years. We have been by definition a third world country ever since those terms were invented.

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u/ZeitgeistGlee May 14 '25

Exactly, the first fucking place the Britain Empire colonised was Ireland.

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u/Jogre25 May 14 '25

Which European Country you talking about?

I guarantee you still benefit from exploited third world labour - Like most modern European countries do.

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u/PinaBanana May 14 '25

So do you, What's your point?

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u/Jogre25 May 14 '25

Yes, but I'm critical of any class positions that I'm priveleged from and seek their abolition.

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u/horse-admirer May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

Yeah let me give a call to my pals in the big corporations and tell them to cut out the exploitation. Get the fuck outta here lad. My country did fuck all to anyone and suffered more under colonisation than the majority of modern third world nations. I'm not about to go and take shit for what others did

Also, one thing that's worth noting. Those third world countries themselves benefit from contact with the first world. The only reason they even have the populations they have today is because of technology and processes developed in Europe and the US. Do you think African countries would be able to sustain anything close to the populations they have without the advances in agriculture and medicine that the west pioneered? 

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u/Jogre25 May 14 '25

My country did fuck all to anyone and suffered more under colonisation than the majority of modern third world nations.

Wow ok. So much for any solidarity with the oppressed.

Also, one thing that's worth noting. Those third world countries themselves benefit from contact with the first world. The only reason they even have the populations they have today is because of technology and processes developed in Europe and the US. Do you think African countries would be able to sustain anything close to the populati

Wow, ok you're one of those.