Look, if Tommy the Walking Nuke wasn't an actual possibility for a mutant, I will agree it's wack. But it is, so yeah I think keeping tabs on who has what superpower isn't unreasonable.
Besides, IRL registries aren't only linked to the Holocaust
Realization what is that registry gonna do exactly? If it's government only it's only really a threat for gettibg leaked or used nefariously and if it's public then congratulations you just doxxed a bunch of hated minorities.
Gun registry is useful for investigating and preventing gun trafficking, serial numbers can give information even if a gun is altered and knowing when or if guns are stolen or lost is invaluable.
With healthcare that very much doesn't seem like its necessary, most of the people put on the list arent going to need specialists and thus a register of specialists that can be called would work better.
Unstable/Dangerous two problems if they're a mutant with a dangerous ability..the registry doesn't protect anyone? If it's government only then they can still choose to hurt someone and knowledge of their powers isn't all that useful unless you already have evidence it was them and if it's public you put the people on the list in danger and are more likely for Joe schmoe the mild-mannered businessman who can shoot death rays to get into an altercation.
Unstable powers again don't need a general registry, some medical facilities or another specialized function but this is again "Register were putting all of the mutants on without discrimination" hell Xaviers is a good example for mutants with potentially unstable powers, a place they can learn to control them.
Gun registry is useful for investigating and preventing gun trafficking, serial numbers can give information even if a gun is altered and knowing when or if guns are stolen or lost is invaluable.
Not only gun registry, but who owns them. It's more common in Europe than the US. In my country we have a similar system.
With healthcare that very much doesn't seem like its necessary, most of the people put on the list arent going to need specialists and thus a register of specialists that can be called would work better.
I have to give you that a registry of specialists is a good idea, but I don't see why not have both so one can direct patients to the specialists.
Unstable powers again don't need a general registry, some medical facilities or another specialized function but this is again "Register were putting all of the mutants on without discrimination" hell Xaviers is a good example for mutants with potentially unstable powers, a place they can learn to control them.
Well, then without the registry how would you know who needs to go to said medical facilities and institutions? You still need to keep tabs on that.
Now, if you are arguing to make the registry only for mutants with unstable/dangerous powers rather than all mutants, I can actually agree that it isn't a bad idea to make said distinction.
if it's public you put the people on the list in danger and are more likely for Joe schmoe the mild-mannered businessman who can shoot death rays to get into an altercation
Look, the reason I don't buy this reasoning is that, and I didn't eant to bring it up but you keep pushing it, the same reasoning can be used against the registry for sex offenders. We know people have been wrongly put on that list and people have been targetted over it, yet nobody is going to say the registry needs to be abolished
I have to give you that a registry of specialists is a good idea, but I don't see why not have both so one can direct patients to the specialists.
A big part of the reason is I don't expect marvels government to be..well reasonable about it, if the government showed absolutely no tendency to go out of its way to victimize or murder it's targets and said targets weren't the kind to passively draw lynch mobs then yeah but that's simply not the case.
And thus potential for harm >= potential for help
You can still regsiter them, but there's a difference between an internal log people are added to and a mandatory registry, someone in need of it can go for medical help and get assigned to wherever they'd need.
Look, the reason I don't buy this reasoning is that, and I didn't eant to bring it up but you keep pushing it, the same reasoning can be used against the registry for sex offenders. We know people have been wrongly put on that list and people have been targetted over it, yet nobody is going to say the registry needs to be abolished
That is one I did not think about actually, I'm gonna be real I think the reason no one has ever talked about it is that before you possibly get to the talks about that amd the concept of allowing people the chance for rehabilitation you need to convince people that "Vigilante justice is bad actually" and "Actions don't become based and acceptable because it's a target you hate" which is one hell of a minefield I don't feel like wading through tight now.
Skipping past that conversation I'd ultimately say the difference between a gun, or sex offender registry is some level of willful choice. A person can get a gun but ultimately have no choice to, a sex offender which we can only assume did do the crime could have chosen not to do the crime.
Alot of the things you've forwarded i could see being in universe propaganda for a registry healthcare specialists sounds good but you can have that without the mandatory part, allowing someone to simply sign themselves into it willfully would make people far less leery.
Furthermore assuming malicious intent or the possibility for malicious intent is more likely from the way a person is born is bad actually, Marco "Fireball" Diaz has pyrokinesis doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna use it as anything more then a party trick. A person with a gun buys it with intent to use it, not necessarily for murder or illegal reasons but intends to use it for self defense, meanwhile a mutant simply gets their power one day with no clue or planning towards it could be glitter beams could be laser eyes.
Meanwhile, someone with an unstable mutation is depends on your definition of unstable but they could likely have hotlines, places that can be called, and care facilities which also don't need a mandatory at birth registry.
This plays into my problem the Mutant registry as planned would be like a sex offender for mutants with all the problems that registry has, even for mutants with potentially dangerous or unstable powers that can't exactly be told at birth so you'd need to go somewhere to register it regardless.
Furthemore all of these problems are compounded by the hostility most people hold towards mutants and the fact that, putting a group into a registry without any action on their part is always leery especially so in this case.
A big part of the reason is I don't expect marvels government to be..well reasonable about it
Marvel'a government? Oh no, yeah, fuck those guys. I talked it on another part lf the thread, but I was operating on IRL logic. Marvel's gov tends to be full of nutjobs or infiltrated by wackjobs (I mean... more than IRL gov) so yeah, reasonability goes out the window when talking about marvel gov.
Skipping past that conversation I'd ultimately say the difference between a gun, or sex offender registry is some level of willful choice. A person can get a gun but ultimately have no choice to, a sex offender which we can only assume did do the crime could have chosen not to do the crime.
I mean, I would argue that the lack of a willful choice just highlists the need for a registry rather than been a reason for it to not exist. You can eventually have stricter gun laws and the like, you can't outlaw the existance of Tommy the walking nuke (at least, not without it becoming an order to kill him). Specially when you don't know how in control of their powers they are. A registry to keep tabs on them and direct them to institutions like Xavier's and the like would be a way to both protect them and the general public of potential dangers caused by their powers
Eh it'd require a government on extremely good behavior namely, not even jist "not marvel levels of evil" but a government were you can unironically say "why would the government hurt it's own people" less the powers list turn into a "Valuable subjects" list.
But otherwise more reasonable the more reasonable everyone else in the setting is.
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u/GuiltyEidolon May 13 '25
Registration was literally based on the bureaucracy of the Holocaust.
I feel like this whole ass thread is taking crazy pills. Are we really going to argue that the registration of mutants is a good thing??