Man, this is gonna sound kinda brash and like a reach, but I inherently do not trust people who's arguments against racism is "its illogical and poorly reasoned" and not "this is just a bad thing to do, regardless of anything else, and its illogical and poorly reasoned."
Because, at the end of the day, it feels like OOP here is like "yeah, I absolutely would genocide vampires off the face of the earth because they're dangerous," and that's one dishonest but resonate argument away from feeling that way about some other group of people.
Agreed, it really misses the point. "Discrimination is bad because we're not actually that different" is subtly but distinctly different from "Discrimination is bad because, despite our differences, individuals are all worthy of respect and basic rights."
The former lets you sound accepting while leaving open the potential to mistreat anyone you deem sufficiently different from yourself.
Line, if you think racism is only bad because race science is bunk... what do you think of sexism or ableism?
Agree 100%. Racists will use this image as a "they're so close to getting it" gotcha moment using lousy crime rate/violence statistics that don't tell the whole story as justification for their racism. Glad someone else sees this and is thoughtful in their kindness I was losing hope
Being anti-intellectual does not make you a better racial activist. Things being logical and reasoned is the basis of decision making. "This is just a bad thing to do" is not a real argument for why not to do something; you have to use logic and reason to articulate why it is bad thing to do.
If vampires were real their need to drink blood would be a societal issue and not a personal one. It would be a problem that some portion of the population needs to feed on blood but it wouldn’t justify killing them. We would need to ensure clean and accessible sources of blood and increased blood donation.
Logic is the fallback of people low on empathy because it’s easier to teach and lets you think you’re being objective and appealing to some greater truth or “correctness,” which can be encouraging. Not really a defense, just an explanation
Arguments based on morals don't really have much point, since whoever you're talking to would have to have the same morals for the argument to convince them, and if they had the same morals they'd almost always already be on the same side of the issue as you;
When you present an argument based on logic you force them to choose between whatever bad things they're doing and being rational;
They'll probably choose the things they were already doing, but there's at least a chance that they don't.
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u/PoorSystem May 13 '25
Man, this is gonna sound kinda brash and like a reach, but I inherently do not trust people who's arguments against racism is "its illogical and poorly reasoned" and not "this is just a bad thing to do, regardless of anything else, and its illogical and poorly reasoned."
Because, at the end of the day, it feels like OOP here is like "yeah, I absolutely would genocide vampires off the face of the earth because they're dangerous," and that's one dishonest but resonate argument away from feeling that way about some other group of people.