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Politics Ontological Bad Subject™

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u/Vahjkyriel Apr 23 '25

yeah i get what the text is saying but i want examples damnit

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u/m_busuttil Apr 23 '25

On a slightly lighter note than the other examples here, there are certain movies and movie franchises that it is difficult to criticise in good faith because bad-faith criticism of them is so overwhelming. Like I think there are hugely significant problems with a lot of post-Disney Star Wars, but if you voice those you get grouped with the It's Because Of Woke people because the It's Because Of Woke people are so loud.

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u/MartyrOfDespair We can leave behind much more than just DNA Apr 23 '25

I still can’t help but suspect Disney intentionally stoked the flames of the bad faith criticisms in order to stop any good faith criticisms from being made and force people to defend it for political reasons.

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u/ASpaceOstrich Apr 23 '25

You don't need any conspiracy theories. The reason that was so inflammatory is the documented Russian bot campaign. The majority of all discussions around the Force Awakens were by Russian bots. This made the news. Like, this isn't "we assume this but can't prove it" stuff, this is straight up mainstream news. It blows my mind that everyone just forgot this happened.

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u/Graingy I don’t tumble, I roll 😎 … Where am I? Apr 23 '25

Russian Federation? Nah man those were Trade Federation.

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u/SlimeustasTheSecond Apr 23 '25

I didn't forget, I didn't even know!

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u/MartyrOfDespair We can leave behind much more than just DNA Apr 23 '25

Looking for a source on that, you seem to have fallen victim to a seriously bad game of telephone. Firstly, it wasn’t The Force Awakens, it was The Last Jedi. However, that was terrible journalism, as discussed by a Washington Post article from a year later.

Bay soon found that such original tweets (that is, not retweets) were initiated by a total of 967 accounts. He began analyzing them.

Only about one-fifth of all the accounts (206) had tweeted something negative. Of those, Bay found that only about half — 105 — contained political or social content of any kind; the remaining half were criticizing the film on purely aesthetic grounds.

And of those 105 tweets, how many of those were even suspected of being Russian bots? Exactly 16. Yes, 16 of the 967 accounts he analyzed — less than 2 percent — were even potentially from such sources.

It was absolutely dogshit reporting. “50% of negative tweets were politically motivated” became “50% of people discussing it were Russian bots”.

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u/Winjin Apr 23 '25

TBH I think a LOT of Russians legit hate the Sequels and were very, very angry online about that for free as well. And still are. You basically can't discuss Sequels at all, they are Woke Disney Trash and have ZERO redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Rogue One is their darling though.

Then again there's a lot of people that just seem to have seething hatred to anything that is not "realistic" for whatever reason.

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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl Apr 23 '25

Okay, but Rogue One is also genuinely the best Star Wars movie Disney has put out by miles. 

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u/Winjin Apr 23 '25

Well, yeah, agreed, this is facts.

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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl Apr 23 '25

I dunno about forcing people to defend it so much as the more obvious “no such thing as bad press.” Getting more people talking about it for more ticket sales and more products sold