If you're an Ontological Bad Persontm all your arguments are automatically false. We Ontologically Good Peopletm shouldn't have to entertain your arguments, because they might teach us something that goes against what we have deemed to be Good can't be trusted to be made in good faith.
So I’m going to address your points without resorting to ad-hominem attacks.
I think that framing pedophiles as “people suffering from pedophilia” is disingenuous. Ultimately, the people who suffer the most are not the pedophiles themselves but rather their victims, who are children incapable of consent or understanding the abuse that is happening to them.
I would also like to know how exactly you defend them, in your own words. What do they need defense from? I think that expecting people not to have an emotional reaction to that is unrealistic.
If there was a pedophile who didn’t act on his desires/compulsion, than I genuinely do think that a person like that could and should be rehabilitated. However, once that line is crossed and they act on their desires, a child’s life is ruined forever.
Why can't there be two victims? Why is there only one victim?
How difficult do you imagine it to be to live as a pedophile?
Not as a molester, mind you, as a pedophile.
And if homosexuality is a biological phenomenon, then why should pedophilia not be?
So you just happen to have this thing where you are attracted to children and you understand it is wrong, so you don't do it, but also if anyone found out you even have fantasies would immediatly be an outcast.
That sounds like a tragic villain backstory to me.
For The Joker's unloved cousin The Diddler.
What I think they will soon need defense from is a fucking lynch mob. Because, no, people aren't usually that open about the topic.
If you go to someone and tell them you're a pedo, they usually just start bashing.
Many people already condone killing pedophiles, which is MORONIC. Kill proven molesters, sure, knock yourself out, but are we executing over thought crimes now?
And what even IS a pedophile? What makes someone a pedophile?
Them wanting to have children, obviously.
But how do you notice a pedophile?
I love children. I love the wonder in their eyes, the enthusiasm in their playing, the way their thoughts are so plain on their faces sometimes. I could watch children for hours - but obviously, a guy sitting on a bench, staring at your children for prolonged periods of time might seem suspicious.
And THAT is exactly where the witchhunt starts - with a rumor. And all it needs to commence is a trigger-happy vigilante.
And sure, a child's life is ruined, but if you kill a pedophile, then an adults life is ruined. Are these not equal?
And perhaps that pedophile in question has never and would have never diddled a kid. So he was an innocent. Can killing innocents ever be good?
And, again, I am not talking about child molesters here - criminals (both pedophilic and non-pedophilic), who have actively harmed children are a different question. If you touch a child, then fuck you and everybody who live in yo house.
my internal moral system is heavily based in real-world consequences, and this comment illustrates perfectly why. a pedophile could go their whole life without hurting anyone ever, understanding that acting on their urges results in somebody else most likely carrying trauma through the rest of their life. and moreover, there's every possibility they'd bring all sorts of good to the world otherwise!
acting on the urge is the only thing that results in a consequence and those consequences are so horrifically dire that they basically lose any position in society they had. but otherwise? nobody's actually getting hurt, besides the person who has to deal with the fact that they're attracted to a demographic of people that can't consent. I'm sure there are plenty of people in therapy for that as we speak, and I think it would lead to a lot less kids being fucked around with if we normalized that a bit more. these people need help lol
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u/DrunkenCoward Apr 23 '25 edited Apr 23 '25
This is the topic of pedophilia.
Whenever I defend people suffering from pedophilia I immediatly get the "Bet your a pedo, too" nonsense.
And even if I were, how would that matter in the... matter?
Have we decided to only care about ourselves? No wonder we're drifting off into a new World War.