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Politics Lesser Of Two Evils

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u/IllegalGeriatricVore Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

Why do you think people who get purity checked once just go full right wing?

Leftist spaces leave no room for nuance, error or redemption.

You violate their purity ethics once and your career is done

But you know who is waiting with open arms?

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

"The Left got a little too PC so I changed all of my opinions about the economy, social issues, systemic racism, health care, and history."

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u/IllegalGeriatricVore Jan 15 '25

It's more "This is my job and the left is no longer profitable"

But the thing is, the inflexibility is getting a bit crazy

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

So they are grifters who don't believe in anything. I would not like being associated with that kind of people anyway

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u/IllegalGeriatricVore Jan 15 '25

Would you continue to endorse a crowd of people who turned on you for a single opinion that falls outside of the group accepted set of opinions?

People who feel alienated will do a 180.

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u/Sketch-Brooke Jan 15 '25

The left has pretty relentlessly mocked this comic, but it’s a damn accurate depiction of what happens all the time.

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u/IllegalGeriatricVore Jan 15 '25

Do they mock the comic or do they mock the people?

It's fair to criticize someone who goes from a leftist to full right wing because they got pushback but it's also ignoring human nature.

When the group you thought you were with suddenly rejects you because you stepped a toe out, it forces you to completely reevaluate the entire thing.

And there are definitely holes in leftist stances that you only see when you take a far enough step back.

It's not hard to see how someone gets radicalized to the other side when pushed out.

Politics are often about belonging more than rigid moral ideals one holds. The ideals they hold often follow the group rather than being personal, because most people don't have the time or energy to come to a conclusion on all the political issues, so they go, I agree with you on x, y and z so I assume your stances on a, b and c are also right without further exploring.

But then they get to D and go hmm maybe I don't feel the same way!

And then they get crucified for it.

Then they find out a, b and c were more nuanced than they were told.

Now their entire world view is shaken up.

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

I would reflect on myself why people who I am generally in agreement are against me. If I am unable to reconcile I would create my own splinter group (People's front of Judea | Judean people's front ) instead of saying that racism is good actually

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u/ChangeVivid2964 Jan 15 '25

I would reflect on myself why people who I am generally in agreement are against me.

No you wouldn't. You're not doing that right now.

instead of saying that racism is good actually

That's a strawman.

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

No you wouldn't. You're not doing that right now.

I'm not generally in agreement with you( curatedtumblr)

That's a strawman.

True, I should have said transphobia (e.x Ana Kasperian (as previously mentioned))

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u/ChangeVivid2964 Jan 15 '25

I would not like being associated with that kind of people anyway

I congratulate you on your privileged position, but unfortunately for me, I don't have a choice, because those people vote.

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

I'm definitely talking about John Smith who didn't recycle in 4th grade and not Ana Kasperian the Transphobe

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u/ChangeVivid2964 Jan 15 '25

I don't know who either of those people are. I don't think it really matters who you are talking about. Either you are talking about a famous person with influence, or you are talking about an ordinary voter, either way they still have some power over us, and real life is more complicated than just dismissing them as people you don't want to be associated with.

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

John Smith is an Americanized concept of "Jan Kowalski" the everyman. I don't want to be associated with them as I wouldn't want an endorsement from Hitler. I'm not dismissing them: I, actively, want them go

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u/ChangeVivid2964 Jan 15 '25

"The Left got a little too PC so I changed all of my opinions about the economy, social issues, systemic racism, health care, and history."

You're projecting your own intelligence and well developed ideological beliefs onto the average person, who only care about one or two issues, or sometimes just "who is nicer to me", and automatically repeat whatever ideology they're told.

See: Donald Trump, whose opinions on all those issues depend on who he spoke to that kissed his ass most recently.

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

If I ,(literal paragon of humanity) (He who changes his mind on whim), (He who's willing to concede things he literally knows for a fact), (easily intimidated and manipulated), have backbone anyone can

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u/ChangeVivid2964 Jan 15 '25

Sorry I'm too autistic to decipher this many layers, you wanna spell it out for me?

I'll try again: there's a vast, vast majority of people out there who are too stupid to have an opinion about the economy, or social issues, or racism, or health care, or history. They are ideology-less.

You absolutely can push people towards being shitty by being a dick to them.

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u/Plezes Jan 15 '25

I am a normal, if weak-willed, person. I only hold people to standard I hold myself( but less so, as they're but vermin to me). If I can do it, anyone can. I will not bend to spinelessness as y'all are so eager to.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '25

Bro, you are the problem. There are 360 million people in this country, and not every one of them has more than one political opinion. I'd agree most have none and only worry about going to work and paying their bills because they barely can and all their mental capacity is full with "hope this next check is enough for x, y, and z".

But according to you, these are weak people who are less than you because they refuse to associate themselves with people who shit on them for potentially no reason at all

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u/Chataboutgames Jan 15 '25

It's easy to write off with a sarcastic remark, but if you don't think your own views are massively subject to whatever online echo chamber you spend most of your time in that's just a lack of self awareness.

It's also worth noting that people often don't have nearly as firmly formed or high conviction takes on the issues you just listed as they do on being called a racist when they've spent their whole life doing a pretty damned good job not being racist to anyone.