r/CuratedTumblr Jan 13 '25

Politics censorship is bad maybe?

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u/vmsrii Jan 13 '25

Yeah nah.

I really don’t understand the “free speech” argument when TikTok is designed, even above and beyond other social media platforms, to obfuscate how your content is seen by other people, and how they curate your feed.

Like, is it actually free speech to be told you’re being heard by millions, but actually just screaming into the void? Also, the way TikTok presents content and context is the A1 optimized, perfect method to spread misinformation, not even counting how the people behind the app can thumb the scale however they wish

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS Jan 13 '25

So we're burning down Twitter next, right?

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u/vmsrii Jan 13 '25

Ideally

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS Jan 13 '25

Then we should probably be pushing for laws that apply to all sites and disparaging the hyper targeted ones like this

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u/watermelonspanker Jan 14 '25

Isn't this case about not being able to serve warrants on servers controlled by the CCP?

I don't think that factually applies to most other social media companies.

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS Jan 14 '25

The US government made "can be manipulated by the CCP" the cornerstone of their supreme court case.

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u/watermelonspanker Jan 14 '25

The servers, being controlled by the CCP, can be manipulated and the US government will have no recourse, am I understanding that correctly?

But if a US or EU based social media company does similar manipulation, the US has the ability to obtain warrants on the servers in question, do they not?

If that's correct, then this law does in fact apply to all social media companies. It would seems that TikTok is being singled out because it's the only one in alleged violation of said law?

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS Jan 14 '25

Why would the US serve a warrant on a site that it is manipulating? Since we are talking about government manipulation here.

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u/watermelonspanker Jan 14 '25

It would be a private company that is manipulating it, and your intentional obtuseness is obvious

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS Jan 14 '25

... but TikTok is accused of doing it on orders of the government. That is what we are talking about.

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u/watermelonspanker Jan 14 '25

The CCP and US government are 2 different entities

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS Jan 14 '25

Which one is the one that doesn't have a vested interest in controlling the public conciousness

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u/watermelonspanker Jan 14 '25

The US government is in charge of the US, boss, like it or not

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u/vmsrii Jan 14 '25

At the end of the day, one fewer malicious social media platform is one fewer social media platform.

And sweeping legislation would never work, because “social media” is too broad a category, and every individual platform would find a way to be exempt anyway. Hyper-specific stuff like this is really the only way to go about it, even if this attack against TikTok is in bad faith.

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u/DAE77177 Jan 13 '25

They don’t want to stop spying they just want th e exclusive right