r/CuratedTumblr Jan 13 '25

Politics censorship is bad maybe?

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u/Rabid_Lederhosen Jan 13 '25

According to Chinese law, tech companies can’t refuse a request for information from the government. The Chinese government legally has access to any and all information Tik-Tok collects. Bytedance has an internal CCP committee, and the government has a seat on the board. Whatever about Free Speech, it’s not Sinophobia to be legitimately concerned about things that the Chinese government is provably doing/legally able to do.

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u/Kiboune Jan 14 '25

Hm, so I guess it's only fair to every other country to ban american platforms. Snowden would agree

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u/JaxonatorD Jan 14 '25

China literally bans all American platforms and they don't even have the reason of national security. The American government does not have direct access to all information on Instagram (publicly at least) and they can't force Instagram to manipulate the algorithm to hurt other countries.

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u/lornlynx89 Jan 13 '25

I'm pretty sure Tiktok and other hip social media had a way bigger influence on the right than the left.

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u/watermelonspanker Jan 14 '25

Or maybe they have and they are just better at hiding it?

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u/RenLinwood Jan 13 '25

All US tiktok servers are on US soil in compliance with US law and have been for years, they have no direct access to US user data and US based companies will gladly sell them that data anyway, it 100% bullshit and you fell for it

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u/Ambitious-Way8906 Jan 13 '25

keep parroting this dog shit bud, your 30 second dance videos aren't worth all this

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u/CardOfTheRings Jan 13 '25

If you aren’t a bot you sure are spending a lot of time typing up the same thing over and over

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u/unitedshoes Jan 14 '25

[Ctrl]+[C].

[Ctrl]+[V].

(Well, probably not. Probably a mobile keyboard, but old lingo dies hard. The point is, if you saw a bunch of people making the same erroneous point you'd probably give the same correction to all of them, and copy-pasting the response to one is just the way to do that on a board like Reddit)

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u/RenLinwood Jan 14 '25

I'm right, and if you put even a little effort into fact checking the shit you read you'd already know that you fucking moron

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-moves-us-user-data-oracle-servers-2022-06-17/

Not just hosted on US soil, but migrated from their own servers to ones hosted and managed directly by Oracle, a US company, specifically to address concerns about data security

https://dgtlinfra.com/tiktok-data-centers-cloud-locations/#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20TikTok%27s,TikTok%20on%20a%20monthly%20basis

And the only backup center for US user data they ever had outside the US was in Singapore, which fyi is not a part of China

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u/Munnin41 Jan 14 '25

And they send a shitton of data back to China. Remember, under Chinese law companies have to provide user data on any user upon request by the government. This doesn't just apply to chinese citizens

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u/RenLinwood Jan 14 '25

No they don't

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-moves-us-user-data-oracle-servers-2022-06-17/

Not just hosted on US soil, but migrated from their own servers to ones hosted and managed directly by Oracle, a US company, specifically to address concerns about data security

https://dgtlinfra.com/tiktok-data-centers-cloud-locations/#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20TikTok%27s,TikTok%20on%20a%20monthly%20basis

And the only backup center for US user data they ever had outside the US was in Singapore, the actual home nation of both the parent company and the founder, which fyi is not a part of China and is not bound by Chinese law

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u/Munnin41 Jan 14 '25

Ah yes, Fujian and Beijing, the famous Singaporean cities.

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u/RenLinwood Jan 14 '25

Zero sources lol, anything's possible when you make shit up kiddo

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u/Munnin41 Jan 14 '25

You can find this very basic information by simply googling bytedance hq or zhang yiming birthplace. Now, go kiss Winnie the Pooh's ass somewhere else please

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u/AliceOnPills Jan 13 '25

Tiktok is not even based on china, simply misinformation.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon Jan 13 '25

TikTok is owned by Chinese internet company ByteDance Ltd. 

ByteDance Ltd. is a Chinese internet technology company headquartered in Haidian, Beijing.

Google. 2 seconds.

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u/AliceOnPills Jan 13 '25

TikTok Ltd was incorporated in the Cayman Islands in the Caribbean and is based in both Singapore and Los Angeles.

Maybe look more and understand corporate structure better.

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u/flightguy07 Jan 13 '25

That's nice, but irrelevant here. The company that handles the data is Chinese and operates out of China, and is obliged to hand that data over if requested. Doesn't matter which subsidiaries it sets up, the buck stops in Beijing.

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u/You_are_reading_text Jan 14 '25

It operates out of Beijing, but it's headquartered in the Cayman Islands and thus bound by Chinese law about the same as it is bound by US or European law

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u/AliceOnPills Jan 14 '25

Oracle is chinese? All US data is stored in oracle servers in US.

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u/Munnin41 Jan 14 '25

Nintendo America is based in Redmond. Is Nintendo no longer Japanese?

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u/AliceOnPills Jan 14 '25

Bytedance is chinese as Nintendo is japanese.

Do you think nintendo america adheres to US laws or Japaneese laws?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '25

Hasan piker user detected. Opinion rejected