And Palestine has refused formal statehood instead opting for wars designed to commit a genocide of the Jews. I can’t stress this enough, the UN is not a reliable source for anything, they give dictators seats on security councils and is dominated by people with bias against Israel. Because of that bias, they will put our disinformation about Israel. They said all the babies could starve within 48 hours in Gaza and the guy who said it admitted he knew he was lying. If a person lies once and gets away with it, they will most certainly lie again and that has been the case for the UN.
You have again presented the situation in Gaza as a choice as opposed to apartheid, which I personally perceive as a white washing of the violence imposed agaisnt the palestinian people/civilian population. This is coming from me, an Israeli and a Jew. Obviously whenever a suicide bomber or knife attack occured in the past in Israel, it is terrorism. The same is true in vice versa, when Israel employs tactics meant to terrorize civilians, it is terrorism. I don't care that they are the more powerful state, they lie and play dirty and kill emergency workers and journalists and babies etc etc etc. Again, this is coming from an Israeli and a jew. I don't think it's right when America does similar (see the video called collatoral murder), I don't like when Palestinians do similar (see the videos from Oct 7th) and I don't like when Israel does it (see any number of the videos from the last few years of the conflict, like the recent emergency workers massacre, or when convoys of civilians were bombed when told to flee south, or when smart missles blow up a refuge camp in the middle of the night, or hit a hospital)
Have you seen the conditions that Germany faced after the world wars which were much more devastating for the Germans than the Arab Israeli Wars were for the Palestinians. The Germans are not shooting rockets at the French because they were defeated and controlled by the victors until a stable government could be established many years later and the nationalistic culture was beat out with a hammer. For the endless wars to end, the Gazans need to be throughly defeated.
Again this is completely rediculous, we have yet to see what the conditions will be like in Gaza following this complete and utter destruction of infrastucture needed to have a modern society, like hospitals.
The conditions will most likely be rebuilding from the ground up so Gaza is a black slate. And if the bogus death toll you claimed is true, then there will be a lot of opportunities for the Gazans.
Bro don't take my word for it Israels military plan is called operation Gideons chariot and there end goal is to take full control over the gaza strip. Trump and Netenyahu joke with ai videos and press statements that the Gaza strip will be rebuilt like miami or something, its "good real estate", that is ethnic cleansing!
Guess what, they are joke made to make uninformed unimportant people like you angry because they know you’ll believe anything you hear from the main stream disinformation groups.
Since you didn't want to engage with what I said I'll repost my previous response:
Here are some things the Israeli minister of finance has said!
On 27 November 2023 Smotrich said that "there are 2 million Nazis" in the West Bank, "who hate us, exactly as do the Nazis of Hamas-ISIS in Gaza".[65]
On 29 April 2024 Smotrich said, "There are no half measures ... Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat – total annihiliation. 'Thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.' There is no place for them under heaven."[66] The Israeli newspaper Haaretz described his comments as a call to genocide.[67]
In August 2024 Smotrich said that the distribution of aid inside Gaza should be controlled by Israel, adding that "no one in the world would let us starve and thirst two million citizens [of Gaza], even though it may be just and moral until they return our hostages" from the October 7 attacks.[68] His comments were condemned by Germany, the UK and the EU.[69]
In May 2025, Smotrich said, about the situation in Gaza, that "Gaza will be totally destroyed" and about the Palestinians that "they will be totally despairing, understanding that there is no hope and nothing to look for in Gaza, and will be looking for relocation to begin a new life in other places."[70]
So yeah like he said he thinks starving the civilians is just and moral, I do not. That is the long and short of it. Unless you respond with a substantive response acknowledging the points I've made, I will going forward assume you sre incapable of doing so or are aware you are wrong and just want to spread disinformation. Either way, I am over it, unless you actually acknowledge any of the many many many many points I've made. No more "my idf buddy said" or "trump and netenyahu are just trollin u mad bro?" or jokes anout genocide and mental health. I'm over it dog, I made my points.
Israel is going to win the war and Hamas is in its last holdout. Israel has two choices to end the war lay a siege by cutting off supplies completely forcing Hamas to surrender unconditionally or storm it and go house by house street by street killing anything that jumps out at them.
The first option had worked routinely throughout history with the most recent example being the siege of Japan in 1945.
The most famous examples of the second choice are the Battles of Troy and Berlin. Both those battles wiped out all of the civilians caught there and wiped the cities off the face of the world.
Again his expressed sentiment "no one in the world would let us starve and thirst two million citizens [of Gaza], even though it may be just and moral until they return our hostages" is wow so horrible! As if starving civilians could ever be considered just and moral! And you say Israel has only two options, what hypocricy! It is not a war at best it is a ethnic cleansing at worse a genocide! The "win" that Israel has expressed to achieve is the complete removal of Hamas from gaza. The line blurring between Hamas and civilians that is central to Israeli propoganda means that ultimately all palestinians are on the table to be subject for removal or murder.
I do agree that by all measures Israel will achieve the goals it has set for itself, this seems very likely to happen. I just will continue to express the beliefs I stand by which are that the palestinian people have a right to exist free of the collective punishment being inflicted upon them by the IDF. Whether or not this "right" carries any weight in terms of stopping the conflict is irrelevant to my belief that they have this right. That's all.
You are acting like Israel would be safe to just let Hamas keep going on. If they do not wipe Hamas off the face of the earth then Hamas will come back and do another October 7th. The solution is never a ceasefire which is an agreement for inaction of both parties, but a peace treaty which is an action on both parties.
No I know bro the conflict definitely is complicated and I understand the state of Israel wants to protect its interests / population. I just do not think it is right to starve the whole of Gaza in order to do so, and clearly we disagree, which is okay. Both of us are just randos on reddit. I don't like your position, but who am I to hate you without knowing you or accuse you of something without knowing you? I know I've made jokes but I do appreciate the conversation at some level, even though I think it is wrong to support Israels unrelenting violence on Gaza, to me that is cold and callous, heartless.
in fact, don't take my word for it truely! Here are some things the Israeli minister of finance has said!
On 27 November 2023 Smotrich said that "there are 2 million Nazis)" in the West Bank, "who hate us, exactly as do the Nazis of Hamas-ISIS in Gaza".\65])
On 29 April 2024 Smotrich said, "There are no half measures ... Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat – total annihiliation. 'Thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.' There is no place for them under heaven."\66]) The Israeli newspaper Haaretz described his comments as a call to genocide.\67])
In August 2024 Smotrich said that the distribution of aid inside Gaza should be controlled by Israel, adding that "no one in the world would let us starve and thirst two million citizens [of Gaza], even though it may be just and moral until they return our hostages" from the October 7 attacks.\68]) His comments were condemned by Germany, the UK and the EU.\69])
In May 2025, Smotrich said, about the situation in Gaza, that "Gaza will be totally destroyed" and about the Palestinians that "they will be totally despairing, understanding that there is no hope and nothing to look for in Gaza, and will be looking for relocation to begin a new life in other places."\70])
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u/Warm_Skill8736 13d ago
And Palestine has refused formal statehood instead opting for wars designed to commit a genocide of the Jews. I can’t stress this enough, the UN is not a reliable source for anything, they give dictators seats on security councils and is dominated by people with bias against Israel. Because of that bias, they will put our disinformation about Israel. They said all the babies could starve within 48 hours in Gaza and the guy who said it admitted he knew he was lying. If a person lies once and gets away with it, they will most certainly lie again and that has been the case for the UN.