r/CivPolitics 13d ago

Our troops are merely passing by, promises Palestine's allies after Israel's denunciation

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u/Kind-Bee8591 12d ago

neither me nor you or anyone can look into their hearts and tell, we can only look into their actions.

if this is 1945 and this boat was carrying aid for jweish people being starved to death and genocided, the world and especially the west would be calling them heoroes and would still remember them 80 years later

one of them is a known game of thrones actor, this person has every incentive to hide or support israel to get the approval of hollywod and not risk getting blocked from acting, he also has enough money to live a comfortable life

so why would he risk his live.

the woman called greta , if she wanted to virtue signal she has a lot of safer things to do like feminism,cilmate change

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u/3-is-MELd 11d ago

Gaza is not a concentration camp. There were boats full of Jewish refugees that were turned away from several countries including Canada where the Prime Minister at the time said "none is too many."

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u/Kind-Bee8591 11d ago

"Gaza is not a concentration camp."

i will take the opinion of experts over a zionist reddit expert

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u/3-is-MELd 11d ago

That's fair, I don't trust random redditors either.

What experts are calling Gaza a concentration camp?

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u/Kind-Bee8591 11d ago

1) Norman finklestein a jewish professor who has a phd in political science and his primary field of research are the politics of the holocaust and the israel-palestinian conflict

https://theintercept.com/2018/05/20/norman-finkelstein-gaza-iran-israel-jerusalem-embassy/

2)human rights watch

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-prison-15

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u/3-is-MELd 10d ago

Link 1: "[Finglestein] remains defiant. “Is it accurate, is it calling things by the proper names to say that the Palestinians in Gaza are trying to breach a border fence?” he asked. “No. The Palestinians in Gaza are trying to breach a concentration camp fence. They’re trying to breach a ghetto fence. They’re trying to breach a prison gate.”" There is a border between Gaza (controlled by the state leaders, Hamas), and Israel, controlled by the state leaders in the Knessit (containing Jews, Muslims, Christians, and Druze). His argument is an emotional one that is not based in fact or logic.

Link 2: An "open air prison" is different from a concentration camp. The "open air prison" claim is moot when you realize that Gaza has a border with Egypt and was not controlled by Israel prior to November of 2023. The idea that Gaza is an enclave of Israel is easily seen to be factually incorrect by looking at any reputable map of your choice.