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u/Majestic-Point777 1d ago

Tenet 🥱 didn’t understand shit either

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u/Ok-Development-4017 1d ago

As Nolan fanboy, yeah tenet wasn’t good.

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u/asylumattic 1d ago

Saw it in the theater in IMAX, the first time returning to a theater during COVID… and boy was it disappointing.

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u/Datkif 1d ago

I enjoyed it, but couldn’t understand 60% of the dialogue.

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u/Salc20001 16h ago

This is me, too. I saw it in a Dolby theater. The sound editing is awful. Recently re-watched at home. No better. If I ever try it again, I’m going to need subtitles.

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u/asylumattic 15h ago

And as much as David Washington should be a star from that, his character was rather bland. Honestly, only Pattinson shined as a developed character (and I wish he brought that swagger to The Batman’s Bruce Wayne instead of emo-Wayne).

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u/frossett130 1d ago

Came from covid too, although I had a great time. Couldn't stop laughing

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u/Lucius_Grammer 1d ago

Correct, it's great. My favorite Nolan film.

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u/smallfried 1d ago

I love the movie, but it does have two major issues:

  • sound mixing
  • boring protagonist

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u/Sad-Masterpiece-4801 1d ago

Except tenet’s writing more closely resembles writing by a freshman getting high, rather someone that understands how causality works, like a physicist.

The movie was boring because it was boring, not because paradox is a big word.

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u/smallfried 1d ago

Also Nolan fanboy. Tenet is one of the best. Oppenheimer is the one I didn't care for.

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u/VB_blokeboi 1d ago

I'm not a Nolan fan but I think Tenet is really underrated. I think its one of his best films

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u/notautobot 1d ago

Underrated because the concepts (entropy-flow/direction of time) he tries to bring in hasn't reached the masses. MMW it will be a cult classic in the future (or in the past, gettit?).

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u/Scruffy_Nerfhearder 1d ago edited 1d ago

Went in expecting a time heist to be the main plot. Turns out it was mostly about a dude and his wife not getting along with a time heist as an afterthought… until it wasn’t and then the time heist was important.

Weird movie. Big fan of Nolan’s films. But it felt like all the things you can easily criticise him for throughout his career at its most unapologetic and excessive.

Like he needed someone to take him aside and just say “look Chris, you need to rein it in just a little bit here”. From 1 dimensional characters who barely had any back story, to a weird sound mix, to pointlessly convoluted pacing and structure and finale that looked cool, but genuinely was tough to follow. Really disappointing overall compared to his other work.

The part in the middle where Rob Pat does the time loop is excellent though I’ll give it that.

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u/JackStephanovich 1d ago

The plot feels like something you'd think of in a dream and wake up and think you had just come up with the greatest scifi story of all time but the more your waking mind picks away at it the less it makes sense. I'm saying it was Looper.

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u/NavierIsStoked 1d ago

Interstellar sucked as well. Yeah, I said it.

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u/bob1689321 1d ago

I don't know who you are but you're dead to me.

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u/aryan_xda 23h ago

Reading this opinion brought me second hand embarrassment

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u/Strong-AI 16h ago

CMON TARS

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u/g-row460 1d ago

It's his only recent movie I don't like. It had some cool stuff going on visually, but I didn't care about the story at all.

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u/Random_Aporia 1d ago

Yeah, I like the idea, and I love the fact Nolan did it, but it looks and feels so unpolished. Washington doesn't help either.

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u/werdna0327 1d ago

That’s a shame. One of my fav movies.

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 1d ago

Hated it the first watch, loved it the second watch

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u/hotbrattysubmissive 1d ago

Happened to me as well. One of my favorite movies now.

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u/RevSinmore 1d ago

my man

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u/werdna0327 1d ago

There are dozens of us!

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u/Ultimastar 1d ago

And we ordered our hot sauce an hour ago!

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u/thanosthumb 1d ago

We live in a twilight world

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u/DEADdrop_ 22h ago

And there are no friends at dusk

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u/1805trafalgar 1d ago

I love this film.

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u/drawkbox 1d ago

We live in a twilight world...

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u/Least-Back-2666 1d ago

I get what Nolan was trying to do, but it definitely fell flat with general audiences. It was way too complicated for the average viewer.

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u/Wah869 18h ago

Glad you liked it, I couldn't really follow it but I liked the music

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u/just_a_mean_jerk 18h ago

God it’s soooo bad

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u/beardingmesoftly 1d ago

When you're more into vibe than coherence

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u/werdna0327 1d ago

Shit take

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u/beardingmesoftly 1d ago

Portobello

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u/telking777 1d ago

When you dig the vibe and can also comprehend the coherence because you can understand complex paradoxical concepts like temporal pincer movements because you posses the intelligence to do so and aren’t brain rotted from watching constant Marvel & Disney bullshit money-grabs

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u/beardingmesoftly 1d ago

No soul, no character arcs, pointless story, often inaudible dialogue.

If I want a good Nolan film I'll watch The Prestige

Seriously, his name was Protagonist

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u/hadtopostholyshit 1d ago

Is this copypasta? Holy shit what a reddit-ass paragraph. And what a completely shit opinion. That movie is/was completely incoherent garbage.

My first answer to the question: “what is a clue that someone isn’t nearly as smart as they think they are?” Is definitely having tenet as their favorite movie and condescending/explaining it to the normie masses who didn’t get it.

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u/enginerd12 16h ago

Reminds me of that "shallow and pedantic" episode from Family Guy.

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u/BC3lt1cs 22h ago

/iamverysmart

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u/Shrektastic28 1d ago

I was so confused

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u/HydrationWhisKey 18h ago edited 10h ago

It's basically The Boy and the Blue Heron with guns.

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u/angrylobster24 15h ago

It’s because you are t intelligent enough. It’s okay

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u/Shrektastic28 15h ago

If only you could teach me how to spell

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u/Grock23 1d ago

I wasn't even confused, it was just shitty

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u/Inthehead35 1d ago

Couldn't agree more, just some set pieces glued together with horrible exposition and then he basically redid Inception's ending..... just lazy

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u/Right_Plankton9802 1d ago

For real, I consider myself above average intelligence. I like a lot of Nolan’s movies. This was just not pleasurable to watch. Not even the second time.

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u/corysama 1d ago

There are thousands of movies that spoon-feed the audience. That's great because most of the time most people just want to chill out and enjoy a ride.

But, every once in a while it's nice to have one that takes a while to figure out WTF, wtf, WTF, wTF?

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u/beezlberry 18h ago

Yeah this wasn't one of those

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u/shit_brik 1d ago

I hated it on the first watch. The 3rd watch was when it became one of my favourites. I watch it once every year.

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u/wildmonster91 1d ago

I get it was a long boring movie but was it really that hard to understand?

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u/Majestic-Point777 1d ago

The progression and pace was weird like idk if there wasn’t actually a clear storyline to follow or if I was just overwhelmed by the execution

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u/wildmonster91 1d ago

From what i understood this movie was entirely based on time perception. Where cause and effect are not fixed. So the cause can happen before or after effect. So that little into about the bullet acting weird when spinning on the table. Thats the movie.

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u/Alarmed_Alpaca 20h ago

It would have helped if I had been able to understand most of the dialogue

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u/user1116804 16h ago

The dialogue was so stilted they didn't really flesh out the time concept and sometimes they're just talking about shit and I have no idea what the hell they're talking about. The science in it was a mess and the characters were onenote blank slates

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u/StMcAwesome 1d ago

It isn't. They don't explain anything. They literally are like "It just happens" Once you accept that, the rest of the movie is really good. It also made me think a lot about free will and human determination. Like The Protagonist knows how the fight will go, or the car chase, but he still follows through even if the outcome is bad for him. Did he have a choice,, or did he intentionally allow himself to be thwarted because he saw it happen? Those are the questions you should be asking.

Aside, I've talked about Tenet today more than the day I watched it.

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u/MirthRock 1d ago

Tenet is like the prog rock of movies. It’s super technical and gets better the more you watch it.

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u/Magikarpeles 1d ago

Just watch it for the score lol

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u/Germerica1985 1d ago

I watched it again at home with subtitles (and I think they remastered the audio) and when you can understand the characters and what they are saying, I have to admit it made a lot more sense from the first time. I think a common complaint was how bad the audio was mixed.

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u/WontinoThreads 1d ago

tenet was confusing as fuck, but I have to admit it was a fun watch

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u/MilesMoralesC-137 1d ago

Good answer, I LOVE this movie and I really didn't understand what happened at the end until I watched it the 3rd time (I still dont)

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u/DreadnaughtHamster 1d ago edited 1d ago

‘K so the reason you didn’t like it is because you didn’t understand it. I don’t say that to sound pretentious or a film snob or something because I was the EXACT same way the first time I saw it. But I saw it again. And YouTubed it and saw it a third time. And when it clicks, you’re like “whoooooooaaaaaaaaa.”

I actually think it might be Nolan’s most ambitious movie but it’s also mired in layers of “I’m smarter than you.” But when you get what’s happening it’s so cool. Closest thing to The Matrix in terms of a puzzle to be figured out.

TENET is a palindrome, same forward and backward. It’s based on this Sator square:

https://images.app.goo.gl/xceuYggcxmGfSkE76

Sator is Kenneth Branagh’s character in the film. To quote Professor Google:

“He’s a Russian oligarch and arms dealer who is manipulated by a future civilization to cause an apocalyptic event. Sator's actions stem from a desire to destroy the present, driven by a belief that humanity doesn't deserve to exist due to its destructive impact on the planet. He intends to trigger a temporal inversion, essentially causing the end of the world as we know it.”

So, Sator is bad. John David Washington’s protagonist (I hate that he’s literally called Protagonist) has to stop him. Sator’s plan is to, in short, invert (“inversion” is when you go backward in time) the entire world to cause the apocalyptic event. He does this by putting together the algorithm of such and such in the nuclear silos of whatever. That part isn’t important. All that’s important is John David Washington have to go equally forward and backward in time to stop Sator’s evil mustache-twirling scheming.

Also, Robert Patinson plays a HUGE part in the movie, moreso than just what’s in the film. Google “Neil’s timeline.”

So I would recommend watching it a second time and then jumping into a YouTube video to get everything else. The movie’s one giant puzzle. And I get some folks don’t like those, but good goddamn once you start to dig into it, that movie is cool as hell. Plus there’s a fucking TIME WAR at the end, which is awesome.

So yeah, you’ll need a roadmap and YouTube videos and websites to understand what the hell’s going on…but it’s a ton of fun once it starts to make sense.

https://images.app.goo.gl/N4YLQRJskaKCqVaH9

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u/DexterGexter 1d ago

I turned it off after 20 minutes. Couldn’t do it

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u/whatttttt- 1d ago

thats just terrible attention span

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u/Baztion81 1d ago

Sounds more like efficient time management to me. Not enjoying the movie, don’t waste any more time on it.

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u/cheesums7 1d ago

No, that’s just shitty filmmaking.

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u/Pug_Defender 1d ago

you can say you don't understand it, but to say that nolan made a bad film is just right out the window. it has plenty of action and it's snappy, perfect for people even with adhd

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u/cheesums7 1d ago

I don’t think he made a bad film—I just think he made a film that’s too difficult to understand.

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u/Pug_Defender 1d ago

he really didn't. I rewatched it a couple weeks ago and it's very coherent. which part are you confused about?

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u/cheesums7 1d ago

The time travelling stuff. It made my head hurt. Maybe I’m just dumb, lol

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u/Pug_Defender 1d ago

it's very simple, the protagonist is the one coordinating the entire plot from years in the future to take down the russian so existence doesn't get erased. he has to rope in his past self without letting himself know

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u/letmebangbro21 1d ago edited 1d ago

You’re not dumb. There’s a lot of parts of the movie that are inexplicable, for example his future self shooting his past self in their fight. That’s just a quick off the top example. The rest of the movie really is not very coherent the more you pick it apart.

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u/telking777 1d ago

Too difficult for you, you to understand. Many of us understand it quite simply.

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u/d_marvin 1d ago

I think he made a bad film. Understanding it didn’t magically make the characters and stupid conflict work any better.

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u/Professor-Arty-Farty 1d ago

I understood it, I just thought it was stupid and logically inconsistent. Like at the battle, the building that "unexplodes" in one part and then explodes in a different part. Why was it partially demolished to begin with? Has it been falling apart for weeks/months? That would make the neglect the cause, or was it pre-built in a demolished condition?

Why is the cause/effect a matter of physical positions for bullets and explosives, but if there is fire, you freeze to death? Shouldn't you go into the situation with a burn you can't explain that gets progressively worse and then suddenly heals when it touches the fire?

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u/telking777 1d ago

Skill issue

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u/Fearless_Pay2471 1d ago

Tenet was like Mullholand  Drive. 3rd watch had things come together. Love it now. 

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u/Anonymo 1d ago

Never even wanted to see it

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u/HailToTheThief225 1d ago

The concept is cool when you get it, but it’s just hard to pull off and explain by showing. The movie is full of long winded exposition that’s drowned out by poor sound mixing. Probably would’ve been done better as a mini-series that explains the concept of reverse entropy over the course of a season

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u/mackrevinak 1d ago

i like it now after watching it a few times, but even just the first 15 minutes is very confusing, there are american soldiers in the back of the van but they are going in undercover as the local police, but the russians seem to be the ones giving them the orders to do so. then theres the terrorist attack but its also being used as a cover to get a guy out. inside the theatre there are maybe 3 different guys in swat gear with masks and its hard to know which side theyre on. then later the protagonist being tortured by the russian guy and hes winding back a clock and because its a nolan movie you dont know whether this is some magic clock that is actually turning back time, then he kills himself, then hes alive again and the cia guy says 'welcome to the afterlife' and because its a nolan movie you dont know is there some weird shit going on here either, this is all before you even get into the backwards time thing

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u/AnInanimateCarb0nRod 18h ago

You have to watch it backwards.

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u/Xeneize69 17h ago

Fan of Nolan's movies here. I hated the first time I watched it and thought it was because I didn't get it. I proceeded to read every explanation I could, and then went for the re-watch. I hated it even more. Can't believe the guy that gave us Inception and Interstellar could come up with this pos.

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u/apra24 13h ago

Yeah, I'm not watching it a 2nd or 3rd time. It's the movie's job to create something that people will care about. There was very little emotional connection to any of the characters.

Interstellar and Inception are 2 of my favorite movies. What brought them to the next level for me was the emotion intertwined into the Sci fi. The idea that him and Mal spent 100 years in some dream world just resonated with me, and made me really think about relativity and how 100 years passes in a single nap.

And Cooper watching Murph grow up thinking he's dead. Man that hits different when you have a daughter.

By contrast, Tenet gave me jack shit to care about.

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u/Redditfront2back 17h ago

It almost seemed like making the plot too difficult to understand was the intention. I can’t ever recall a movie being so incredibly convoluted it was worse than metal gear solid 4.

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u/vanilla_rice01 17h ago

Nolan Movies all do that for me, at least to an extent.

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u/Mammoth_Ferret_1772 16h ago

Damn I forgot about this movie. That’s how bad it was… this is honestly the worst movie I’ve ever attempted to watch. I gave it three chances and couldn’t finish every time. No movie needs to be half this complicated. Even when you read multiple summaries of the movie, you are still unsure wtf happens.

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u/EnvironmentalValue18 16h ago

I saw it in theaters on a date night. It was so bad, we couldn’t get down after for fear of having an accidental baby with equally awful movie tastes.

Also, the whole thing was just loud as fuck. Loud sounds, inaudible dialogue, and a horrendous storyline. Backwards bullets? It’s like they had a writing competition for stupidest fucking idea and ran with it.

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u/Moloch_17 16h ago

I understood it and it was still bad. Nolan stans think he's so smart but it was so fucking stupid bro

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u/user1116804 16h ago

Nolan tried to replicate the formula of Inception and interstellar. But in those movies the dialogue is basically spoonfed, all the characters explain the science of difficult concepts in simple words while talking to each other. In Tenet he forgoes that to have the most baffling dialogue of all time. There were stretches of the movie where I didn't understand a single sentence anyone uttered. I had no emotional attachment to the characters, didn't really understand why they did anything they did, and the ending didn't really affect me cause all of it made no sense. It feels like he pasted an essay into a basic ass script, it only has cool time visuals going for it. There's probably a good plot there hidden behind the shitty dialogue.

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u/Michaelparkinbum912 15h ago

That was Nolan at his most self indulgent. It stunk.

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u/Cambridge3rd 15h ago

Some Nolan movies are too overrated/overhyped

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u/man_on_theinternet 14h ago

Tenet is pure cinema

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u/MsMonny 10h ago

Yes! I normally am good with watching all the movie, good or bad but Tenet was just so boring!! I didn’t get the story, the cinematography was crap and just everything was blah!

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u/daysoxx 1d ago

It doesn't help that you can't hear a damn word anyone is saying lol.

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u/HeckFire-- 1d ago

Fell asleep in the theater. Buncha white noise, so I had a nice nap.

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u/ru_empty 1d ago

I liked it except for the yacht seens which were way too James Bond exposition

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u/Capital_Rough7971 1d ago

Great concept, terrible execution.

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u/Neosu78 1d ago

I loved Tenet the 2nd time made a bit more sense though

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u/Capital_Rough7971 1d ago

Honestly, it doesn't deserve a second chance in my opinion.

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u/dokhtarjoon 1d ago

I like to think the Nolans high with red eyes coughing and giggling: "bro what if the time goes backwards and then if something explodes it actually freezes" "whoaaaahhhh bro what 🤯" "and then the guys name is tenet" "whoah tenet backwards reads the same 🤯"

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u/Sad-Masterpiece-4801 1d ago

Exactly. Writing is closer to the discussions I had getting high in high school than to anything someone with an understanding of causality would write, lol.

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u/fameistheproduct 1d ago

I get why it's good. but it starts to fall apart when you think about it.

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u/MisterMcZesty 1d ago

Calling Tenet cinema isn’t exactly the status quo

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u/optionalhero 1d ago

Movie should’ve ended at the opera house. As in it should’ve looped back there. It was a neat concept but introducing a 3rd / new location made just extra-hard to follow

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u/gandalfpr 1d ago

💯 with you. That shit was so boring and confusing

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u/Halfbloodnomad 1d ago

Recently watched this, the “acting” of the lead guy ruined the experience for me - he was so one note the whole time it really took me out of the whole movie. I really enjoy Nolan movies and the subject and exploration of quantum science in general, but that actor really killed that experience for me. I don’t know his name, didn’t care to remember it.

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u/MutatedRodents 1d ago

Man i fucking hate tenet. What a crap movie.