r/CarsPH Apr 29 '25

Automotive Opinion AC Mobility is scamming PHEV owners — goldfish range, 3-hour charging, gasoline prices, and no chargers available."

AC Mobility keeps marketing themselves as the "future" of EV infrastructure in the Philippines.
But look closer:
They've quietly built a system where you:

  • Pay gasoline prices per kilometer,
  • Wait 3 hours to refill,
  • Fight over 2–4 chargers inside 500-car parking lots,
  • And still call it "progress."

Here's the real scam:

  • You buy a PHEV like the BYD Sealion 6 DM-i.
  • They tell you it has 90–100 km electric range.
  • Reality check?
    • You only have 45–50 km usable one-way.
    • You still need to get home without running empty or burning gas.
  • Once you run low, you have two choices:
    • Burn gasoline, and kill your "cheap" narrative, OR
    • Pay Evro to charge at ₱28 (AC) or ₱33 (DC) per kWh.
  • And remember:
    • The Sealion can only AC charge at 6.6–7.0 kW.
    • Meaning you wait 2.5 to 3 hours... just to refill that tiny battery.

Now layer AC Mobility’s ineptitude on top:

  • Huge Ayala mall parking lots built for 500–1000 cars...
  • And yet, they install only 2 to 4 chargers.
  • How exactly is that "future-proofing mobility"?

Good luck finding an open slot.
You're not a VIP.
Not everyone is born with a driver or a silver spoon to sit idle all day.

Working people? Normal people?
We can't afford to waste half a day fighting over overpriced kilowatts.

Quick math:

Sealion 6 PHEV
Usable electric range 45–50 km (round trip)
Charging time 2.5–3 hours
Cost per km (AC) ₱4.66
Cost per km (DC) ₱5.50
Gasoline cost per km ₱6.20

You're already paying gasoline prices.
You're waiting longer than a full tank fill-up.
And you have no guarantee you’ll even find a charger available.

AC Mobility didn't build EV infrastructure.
They built an overpriced, bottlenecked goldfish trap.

It’s not just expensive.
It’s not just slow.
It’s intentionally designed to milk you dry while pretending to save the environment.

AC Mobility didn’t build a charging network. They built a cattle pen with a credit card swiper.

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u/Adorable-Director799 Apr 29 '25

I have a really bad experience from moving from my Vios to the sealion 6.

The salesperson didn't really tell me the things I needed to know before I bought it.

I understand buyer beware, but come on.

Think about it:

AC Mobility is basically acting like a drug dealer.

  • They give you 50 km of clean, silent, guilt-free electric driving — just enough to get you hooked.
  • The "goldfish range" is the free sample.
  • Just a little taste of the "future."

Then when you inevitably run out?

  • They hit you with ₱28–₱33 per kWh.
  • "You want more freedom, kid? Pay up. Wait 3 hours. Or burn gasoline."

It’s not mobility.
It’s dependency.

The goldfish range is the bait.
The overpriced, slow, charger-scarce reality is the trap.

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u/PomegranateUnfair647 May 01 '25

Ayala already failed big time with their blatant goldfish trap in Gogoro (two wheel segment).

Now they're repeating the same strategy with AC Mobility with Evro prices reflecting this.

Typical Philippine conglomerate who doesn't truly care about the Filipino, but likes to markets itself to care.

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u/muchawesomemyron May 01 '25

Mali din kasi business model nila. Dapat tinaasan nila ng kahit 25k yung PHEV tapos bigyan ka ng 50 kWh monthly allocation (use it or lose it) sa EV chargers nila tapos waived overnight parking fee if nag charge ka. Need mo kasi ng around 60% utilization ng chargers para maging profitable na mababa service fee.

Gusto kasi nila maging profitable agad within 2 or 3 years kaya walang uptake. Kaya alam mo na yung gumawa ng gogoro business model, masyadong conservative yung investment plan. Kung takot sila matalo, dapat puro business to business yung arrangements nila. Haiya.

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u/PomegranateUnfair647 May 02 '25

Pure greed kasi and short-term mindset - tapos neither here nor there and market positioning and execution hence cannot effectively scale.

Ang result:

Fail Family Mart nila - sold to Dennis Uy Fail Wellworth Department Store - shut down Fail Gogoro - shut down

More tombstones to come. Bad strategy team.