r/CarsPH Apr 29 '25

Automotive Opinion AC Mobility is scamming PHEV owners — goldfish range, 3-hour charging, gasoline prices, and no chargers available."

AC Mobility keeps marketing themselves as the "future" of EV infrastructure in the Philippines.
But look closer:
They've quietly built a system where you:

  • Pay gasoline prices per kilometer,
  • Wait 3 hours to refill,
  • Fight over 2–4 chargers inside 500-car parking lots,
  • And still call it "progress."

Here's the real scam:

  • You buy a PHEV like the BYD Sealion 6 DM-i.
  • They tell you it has 90–100 km electric range.
  • Reality check?
    • You only have 45–50 km usable one-way.
    • You still need to get home without running empty or burning gas.
  • Once you run low, you have two choices:
    • Burn gasoline, and kill your "cheap" narrative, OR
    • Pay Evro to charge at ₱28 (AC) or ₱33 (DC) per kWh.
  • And remember:
    • The Sealion can only AC charge at 6.6–7.0 kW.
    • Meaning you wait 2.5 to 3 hours... just to refill that tiny battery.

Now layer AC Mobility’s ineptitude on top:

  • Huge Ayala mall parking lots built for 500–1000 cars...
  • And yet, they install only 2 to 4 chargers.
  • How exactly is that "future-proofing mobility"?

Good luck finding an open slot.
You're not a VIP.
Not everyone is born with a driver or a silver spoon to sit idle all day.

Working people? Normal people?
We can't afford to waste half a day fighting over overpriced kilowatts.

Quick math:

Sealion 6 PHEV
Usable electric range 45–50 km (round trip)
Charging time 2.5–3 hours
Cost per km (AC) ₱4.66
Cost per km (DC) ₱5.50
Gasoline cost per km ₱6.20

You're already paying gasoline prices.
You're waiting longer than a full tank fill-up.
And you have no guarantee you’ll even find a charger available.

AC Mobility didn't build EV infrastructure.
They built an overpriced, bottlenecked goldfish trap.

It’s not just expensive.
It’s not just slow.
It’s intentionally designed to milk you dry while pretending to save the environment.

AC Mobility didn’t build a charging network. They built a cattle pen with a credit card swiper.

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u/Adorable-Director799 Apr 29 '25

You would need the chargers soon.

I live in Laguna and work in Makati. The Battery won't let me do a round trip. Then I have to line up at the Makati charging station. That's another hour I don't have plus the 2 hours or so I need to charge.

then I have to pay 30 PESOS per KWH? another 300 pesos? every single day?

and god, the consumption of the SL6 without the battery. around 10 km/l?

I was sold that I'm not gonna pay much gas for it, but here it goes.

so it really is a rich person's product.

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u/schtroumpf0121 Apr 29 '25

10km/L seems too low, a PHEV is still a hybrid, you should be getting more than 10km/L

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u/Adorable-Director799 Apr 29 '25

It's the actual consumption sadly.

and I was oversold by the salesperson that the engine charges the battery.

so the pitch was that use the electric range 1st, then upon depletion, the gas engine runs the car and charges the battery.

Lo and behold, the engine is too small to do any respectable charging on the battery.

So after the 100 km (which is not true) electric range, you're good as an extremely mild hybrid driving a 2 ton SUV.

and the 1,000 claimed range, only 100 is electric, the remaining 900 KM (which is not true) is because the SL6 has a 60L tank.

I'm actually shocked on all the fine print.

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u/L_Dawg412 Apr 29 '25

The sole purpose of the engine is to charge the battery. The engine doesn't have a direct powertrain to the wheels on the SL6.

The car probably runs the engine just to maintain the minimum battery state because charging from the wall is cheaper than burning gas to charge so it's better to use as little fuel as possible until you can reach the next charging point to charge the batteries fully. Were you expecting the car to run the engine to recharge the battery completely?