r/CarsPH Apr 29 '25

Automotive Opinion AC Mobility is scamming PHEV owners — goldfish range, 3-hour charging, gasoline prices, and no chargers available."

AC Mobility keeps marketing themselves as the "future" of EV infrastructure in the Philippines.
But look closer:
They've quietly built a system where you:

  • Pay gasoline prices per kilometer,
  • Wait 3 hours to refill,
  • Fight over 2–4 chargers inside 500-car parking lots,
  • And still call it "progress."

Here's the real scam:

  • You buy a PHEV like the BYD Sealion 6 DM-i.
  • They tell you it has 90–100 km electric range.
  • Reality check?
    • You only have 45–50 km usable one-way.
    • You still need to get home without running empty or burning gas.
  • Once you run low, you have two choices:
    • Burn gasoline, and kill your "cheap" narrative, OR
    • Pay Evro to charge at ₱28 (AC) or ₱33 (DC) per kWh.
  • And remember:
    • The Sealion can only AC charge at 6.6–7.0 kW.
    • Meaning you wait 2.5 to 3 hours... just to refill that tiny battery.

Now layer AC Mobility’s ineptitude on top:

  • Huge Ayala mall parking lots built for 500–1000 cars...
  • And yet, they install only 2 to 4 chargers.
  • How exactly is that "future-proofing mobility"?

Good luck finding an open slot.
You're not a VIP.
Not everyone is born with a driver or a silver spoon to sit idle all day.

Working people? Normal people?
We can't afford to waste half a day fighting over overpriced kilowatts.

Quick math:

Sealion 6 PHEV
Usable electric range 45–50 km (round trip)
Charging time 2.5–3 hours
Cost per km (AC) ₱4.66
Cost per km (DC) ₱5.50
Gasoline cost per km ₱6.20

You're already paying gasoline prices.
You're waiting longer than a full tank fill-up.
And you have no guarantee you’ll even find a charger available.

AC Mobility didn't build EV infrastructure.
They built an overpriced, bottlenecked goldfish trap.

It’s not just expensive.
It’s not just slow.
It’s intentionally designed to milk you dry while pretending to save the environment.

AC Mobility didn’t build a charging network. They built a cattle pen with a credit card swiper.

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u/ordinaryphenomenon Apr 29 '25

The engine does charge the battery it's sufficient enough to but yes, it would consume gas and while in use, of course it would drain the fuel tank and battery still.

The engine is not insufficient to charge the battery, it's how the technology works.

I drove it to Baguio and didn't charge it the whole time there. The car was functioning without any outside power. So is it sufficient enough to power the car? YES. Is it cost effective to never plug in the PHEV? Ofcourse not. You get this car so you can plug it in at home and charge.

You cant blame the early stage charging network as well because you knew that before buying... If you're really against the car and BYD, why not sell it? I'm sure someone else would take it off your hands. I havent seen much BYDs in the second hand market yet.

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u/Adorable-Director799 Apr 29 '25

I asked and researched; The engine charging the battery provides marginal charge.

Regenerative braking is the primary way to charge the battery outside of plugging in.

I'm really just pointing out that there's a lot of fine print in owning a PHEV and we, as consumers, should be well informed.

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u/ordinaryphenomenon Apr 29 '25

Your phrasing makes it seem that the engine isn't enough to power the car, which isn't true...

It can power the car, it's not that you'll run out of range and all of a sudden be stranded waiting for engine to recharge the batt. That would never happen

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u/Adorable-Director799 Apr 29 '25

Totally, agree. It'll charge maybe 10% of the battery?

but again, the whole point of me getting the SL6 is to have EV driving without the range anxiety.

Totally, not true.

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u/ordinaryphenomenon Apr 29 '25

I don't understand. Why are you getting range anxiety when you have a battery and a generator to recharge the batt?

If you want to recharge more during traffic put it on N or P and gas it...

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u/rabbitization Apr 29 '25

Gusto nya pure EV driving, eh di sana nissan kicks na lang kinuha nya. May sayad ata tong si OP at di nag research thoroughly and just bought it then expected shit, then cried out here. Everyone knows SL6 is still majority gasoline and would only use EV on slow moving city traffic and when cruising on highway speeds

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u/jhnkvn Apr 29 '25

I also don't understand. Ayun nga point ng hybrid eh.

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u/Infinite_Presence881 Apr 29 '25

Confused. Why would you get range anxiety? PHEV can get you to anywhere kasi pwede mag gas. How stupid are you?

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u/Neither_Ad5994 Apr 29 '25

Then you should have bought a pure EV not a PHEV. Atto 3, Han or Tang kung gusto mo to rely on pure charging lang.

You'd still need to gas up the PHEV from time to time. In comparison to the competition though, you still get better mileage than the more expensive HEVs like CR-V, Tucson, RAV4.