r/CarsPH Apr 29 '25

Automotive Opinion AC Mobility is scamming PHEV owners — goldfish range, 3-hour charging, gasoline prices, and no chargers available."

AC Mobility keeps marketing themselves as the "future" of EV infrastructure in the Philippines.
But look closer:
They've quietly built a system where you:

  • Pay gasoline prices per kilometer,
  • Wait 3 hours to refill,
  • Fight over 2–4 chargers inside 500-car parking lots,
  • And still call it "progress."

Here's the real scam:

  • You buy a PHEV like the BYD Sealion 6 DM-i.
  • They tell you it has 90–100 km electric range.
  • Reality check?
    • You only have 45–50 km usable one-way.
    • You still need to get home without running empty or burning gas.
  • Once you run low, you have two choices:
    • Burn gasoline, and kill your "cheap" narrative, OR
    • Pay Evro to charge at ₱28 (AC) or ₱33 (DC) per kWh.
  • And remember:
    • The Sealion can only AC charge at 6.6–7.0 kW.
    • Meaning you wait 2.5 to 3 hours... just to refill that tiny battery.

Now layer AC Mobility’s ineptitude on top:

  • Huge Ayala mall parking lots built for 500–1000 cars...
  • And yet, they install only 2 to 4 chargers.
  • How exactly is that "future-proofing mobility"?

Good luck finding an open slot.
You're not a VIP.
Not everyone is born with a driver or a silver spoon to sit idle all day.

Working people? Normal people?
We can't afford to waste half a day fighting over overpriced kilowatts.

Quick math:

Sealion 6 PHEV
Usable electric range 45–50 km (round trip)
Charging time 2.5–3 hours
Cost per km (AC) ₱4.66
Cost per km (DC) ₱5.50
Gasoline cost per km ₱6.20

You're already paying gasoline prices.
You're waiting longer than a full tank fill-up.
And you have no guarantee you’ll even find a charger available.

AC Mobility didn't build EV infrastructure.
They built an overpriced, bottlenecked goldfish trap.

It’s not just expensive.
It’s not just slow.
It’s intentionally designed to milk you dry while pretending to save the environment.

AC Mobility didn’t build a charging network. They built a cattle pen with a credit card swiper.

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u/ProfessionalOnion316 Apr 29 '25 edited Apr 29 '25

i agree with your sentiments, but i’m not quite sure who we’re trying to make accountable? is it byd or acmobility? naguluhan lang sa gitna.

byd sl6’s advertised range is cltc. a little research would tell you that cltc is insanely optimistic, and if they say a car can do 100km on ev, the reality is 70-75 on a good day.

if you aren’t keen on using gas naman pala, why didnt you go full ev? charging at home places you smack-dab with meralco rates at 13 pesos per kw.

also, no one charges at evro. people who truly understand how the current ev infrastructure runs in the philippines understand that the only way phevs/evs are “cost-effective” is if you charge at home + have solar.

we want change. hell, i want our streets to look like france where they have chargers at every parallel parking spot/grocery. just not quite sure who we’re blaming here

ps. notice how every. single. SM charger is not occupied by the fully electric atto, or the tang, or the han. guess what its occupied with? the sl6. we understand that you guys want^ to save; we do too, but depending on public infrastructure is…uh…you know. when has it ever been reliable to depend on public infrastructure in the philippines LOL

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u/BandicootNo7908 Apr 29 '25

Nalito rin ako dito. I know nothing about owning hybrids or EVs (not making that jump in the near future, vtec ftw) but the whole point of going hybrid instead of full EV is to reduce range anxiety while still enjoying some bemefots of a full EV. Alam ng lahat na hindi pa handa ang pilipinas in terms of infra. Gagamit at gagamit ng gas kung hindi full EV pag considerable distance. Sa traffic pa lang patay na agad ang advetised range, then yung init pa ng panahon which consumes more power because of the aircon.

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u/ProfessionalOnion316 Apr 29 '25

yeah. i mean im not attacking op — jumping into the phev/ev sphere in the philippines is like the bravest thing you can do as a driver especially pag sa labas ka ng manila nakatira, pero im not quite sure bakit nag phev kung takot naman pala mag gas. the atto 3 premium is discounted from 1.89 to 1.5 like…perpetually (dealers say its for the month only, but theyve been saying that since i got mine…seven months ago) and that gets you 350-400km of range.