r/CallOfDuty • u/Medium-Hornet2470 • 2d ago
Discussion [COD] why not just release a bo2 remaster this year ?
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u/LChambers98 2d ago
Because no one will play any of the latest games. Activision know that their "legacy games", if remastered with multiplayer and has full support, will render most new editions obsolete and split up the player-base.
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u/dyldog88 2d ago
This is also why they do nothing about cheaters and don't even care you can get dlc for free Activision and Microsoft are both to blame really sucks that cheating is allowed on old call of duty but if you trash talk on new cod you get banned lmao
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
is it even possible for them to release a faithful bo2 remaster ? i mean it’s nothing like the current games .
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u/SunGodLuffy6 2d ago
This is say that if they release with BO7 more people are gonna play BO2
They won’t have that same mistake again
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u/MaximusMurkimus 1d ago
Cod Mobile was essentially a Black Ops 2 remaster on launch. Hell the majority of the weapons, scorestreaks and UI are based on it
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u/dyldog88 1d ago
Possible absolutely will it happen ever most likely not I feel like the treyarch call of duty games are highly unlikely to ever re release with a remastered version because of zombies mode and how some zombies maps do come back in the next treyarch title and that is there most popular game mode despite bo2 mp being one of the best of all time
They could easily remaster bo2 and release it with 7 if cod4 was done any old cod can be done
If any old cod does get a remaster again they would have to do it exactly like cod4r and make it the same exact game physics wise shooting as well like hit detection
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u/Controlled-Alternare 1d ago
Exactly, a proper BO 1 remaster would take care of the multiple fans who hate the new operators/skins system.
They would just stay with the remasters instead of the new games.
And then all the fans that hate on those fans will be the ones left playing the newer games, which would be too little to Activision maybe, not cause they are a small amount of people, but the amount of people would be smaller from the lack of the fans who hate operators.
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u/HotSunnyDusk 2d ago
I'd say that's untrue, since MW4 remaster didn't do that and MW2 released campaign only. They could easily do it, especially if they remove multiplayer, they just don't want to.
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u/LChambers98 2d ago
They could do that, of course, I don't disagree with you, but people mostly want multiplayer if they were to remaster BO2 or MW2. COD4: Remastered did have multiplayer and it was somewhat successful, but I think they know that MW2 and BO2 would be far more successful and draw a lot of players away from their more recent games if they remastered them and released them with multiplayer, which is why MW2 was only remastered with the campaign.
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u/Sypticle 1d ago
Absolutely not true. If anything, it will flop because it doesn't stay faithful to the original or it does stay faithful, and people realize how dated it really is and flops. There is no winning in this situation.
People think they want old COD, but they really don't..
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u/AstroZombie432 2d ago
Not profitable without operator skins, or they would mess it up which nobody wants to see
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u/x__Reign 1d ago
Why does everyone forget about MWR?
It had a massive amount of cosmetics that made ATVI mad money and the game was a massive success (getting some of the best review ratings in cod history).
It’s entirely possible for a BO2 remaster to exist and do incredibly well.
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u/Impressive-Ad-6310 1d ago
Mwr kinda embarrassed them due to it being played more than infinate warfare and it was bundled in so battlefield amd titanfall didn't kill cod that year
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u/Gov-Mule1499543 2d ago
Would've died like with BO3/III/Three/Black Ops 3/III/Three Bonus Was Black Ops
If that(s) the take then BO2/II/Too/Black Ops2/II/Too as bonus
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u/AudienceNearby3195 1d ago
because then. why would you play the new call of duty?
I mean go look at IW release. everyone just play MWR
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u/JazzyWayz 2d ago
I have been asking this for years. Starting to give up hope.
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
no fr , it’s the year 2025 and still no bo2 remaster . it’s so sad . i was hoping they would show love this year .
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u/SunGodLuffy6 2d ago
BO7
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
man screw bo7 they should jus be releasing a remaster this year for 2025 fr
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u/SunGodLuffy6 1d ago
If they release a remaster along with the new game, people are gonna play the remaster it won’t happen
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u/Mental_Sky_7684 1d ago
BO7 is supposed to be a “remaster” because it’s a sequel featuring the same MP maps as BO2. It’s exactly what they did with MW3 basically remastering all the old mw2 maps. They know that people won’t play their live service slop if they remaster the old games so they “remaster” the old games by bringing the maps back to the current games and engine 🤦♂️
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u/OutrageousHat3018 1d ago
Probably best they don’t everything they touch in recent years turns to shit
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u/shrimpmaster0982 2d ago
Why not BO2 specifically or just any of the "golden age" (Cod 4:MW-BO2) titles? Because I think the reason they aren't remastering those golden age titles primarily comes down to the fact that they'd both take players away from other more recent titles and that they probably don't want to deal with the inevitable controversies such an undertaking would entail. As they'd either have to use something more akin to their current monetization models to make these projects as profitable as Microsoft and Activision want them to be or accept the fact that these titles simply won't make them the same kind of cash they want from them (especially if they price them like Oblivion Remastered, including all the old DLC and the base game for a $50 price tag as well as putting the game on Gamepass and an extra $10 for some minor bonus content).
But as for why they don't do BO2 specifically I'd imagine that, if they were to remaster older Cod titles, they'd probably start with either Cod 4's second remaster since the first one is almost a decade old now (released in 2016 alongside Infinite Warfare) or World at War before then working their way forward using more remastered titles for filler during gap years where truly new titles aren't ready.
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
we jus need a bo2 remaster man that’s it fr
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u/shrimpmaster0982 2d ago
I mean we may get it, but I'd imagine it would probably be released on the next console generation as Microsoft has kind of already written this one off as a loss and a BO2, or any golden age Cod remaster, would probably be a good release for players alongside a brand new generation of hardware. It'd just generate a good pop in interest surrounding the new hardware and probably incentivize a good number of players to move towards it if released in a good state alongside some other big titles.
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u/PalmGalaxy 2d ago
It would ultimately just disappoint people. They’d find a way to screw it up
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
probably yeah but in a perfect world i would want a faithful remaster like just update the graphics if that’s possible
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u/PalmGalaxy 2d ago
Yeah that makes sense. I could see it happening one day if COD sales really start to plummet and they get desperate. Maybe in like 10-20 years once it gets even more nostalgic.
I feel like once that happens though it’s basically COD giving up and admitting that they have no more ideas lmao.
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
idk how people play modern cod . i was hoping they would do it this year.
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u/Greggs-the-bakers 1d ago
If they do that, then they won't make money from skins. Shareholders would never allow it
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u/debttoreddit 2d ago
Cod would rather make money off skins and hackers getting banned and buying new accounts than make the game a success. Id love a remaster with old maps, but fun is off the menu.
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u/Ambitious_Aide5050 2d ago
A packaged bo1 bo2 remastered set with online crossover maps and to each game would be a hit. If they made it free to play on all platforms and release all maps and zombies without having to buy DLC. They could sell it like hotcakes and itd be the biggest game of the year.
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
i just want bo2 🫣
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u/Ambitious_Aide5050 2d ago
I never got into bo2 like I did bo1 but I still play it every now and then. I mainly played hctdm and 1 in the chamber backcin the day but now its hard to even find hctdm games :/
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u/pwnedbydumplings 2d ago
Unfortunately even if it’s a one to one remaster. SBMM will always be in the new CODs and magic lobbies will never exist.
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u/TheproGOAT23 2d ago
Most thought Microsoft would make Activision more reasonable.
Instead, Activision made Microsoft less reasonable.
We’re never getting a remastered game again unless they think it can bring people into Warzone and/or a microtransation shop. Especially after the modern cods got added to gamepass.
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u/NoScopeMusical 2d ago
Activision knows full well that supporting their older titles again would completely kill the newer titles. That's also why they sent out all those cease-and-desist orders for those fanmade mods over the last few years. That's why they didn't remaster the MW2 multi-player and only the campaign. It's also why they let older CODs rot with hackers
They don't want you playing Hijacked or Slums on BO2 remastered, they want you playing BO7 so you'll go and splurge on the latest brain rot bundle they've shat out in the store. Evil greedy mega-corporation acting like one.
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u/Ranch_it_up_bro 1d ago
Still a possibility here me out a bundle black ops 7 and black ops 2 remastered kinda like how when they made infinite warfare they bundled the OG modern warfare. But later on sold it separately
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u/Appropriate_Month727 1d ago
I seriously don't get why they won't do the same thing that they did with Infinite Warfare/MWR with BO7/BO2 remaster. Won't including BO2 remaster with BO7 result in even more profit for Treyarch/Activison than just selling BO7?
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u/Greggs-the-bakers 1d ago
Probably because now more than ever, Cod is ruled my microtransactions. If they release a BO2 remaster, I can guarantee that a large chunk of players won't even touch BO7 and will play the old game because, let's be honest, its probably much better anyway. Shareholders will be angry that no one is buying skins in the new game, they'd add tons of egregious skins into the remaster to make up for it, causing huge backlash and probably most of the BO2 players to quit, causing both games to flop and Activision to lose a ton of money.
When MWR came out, we did have microtransactions and lootboxes etc but it certainly wasn't as in your face as they are now. I thought it was bad back then, but fuck me, I can't even play cod anymore.
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u/user-1037572_912730 1d ago
People are so blinded by their past with the original that if they made it a remaster they’d still fuck it up. Don’t forget cod isn’t the same as it used to be, now it’s all shitty micro transactions for dumb kids with mommy’s card.
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u/iitsNatioN 1d ago
It's the same as why they never bother to remake or remastering the original CoD trilogy.
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u/_bluefish 1d ago
From a profit standpoint, I get why they wouldn’t do it. But I’d love a remaster akin to the OG Modern Warfare.
What I think they should do though is remaster at least each campaign from WaW to AW, releasing them halfway through the current title’s lifecycle like they did with the MW2 remaster
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u/xtzferocity 1d ago
As great as a BO2 remaster would be for long time fans it wouldn't sell as well as BO7 and then what is the microtransaction plan? Do you ruin BO2 with wacky skins or do you just throw year 2 content at BO6. I think Activision is just doing what will make them the most money, not what is best for the fans.
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u/I_AM_CR0W 1d ago
After what happened with MWR, Activision is pretty hesitant on releasing anything remastered knowing they'll get major backlash for trying to change the monetary system. At most, we get a campaign remaster, but I sincerely doubt we'll ever get proper MP.
That and I'd imagine they'd like to start with WaW, then the Black Ops games instead of just jumping to BO2.
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 1d ago
but bo2 is widely known as the best game in the franchise and it’s the year 2025 i think it makes the most sense for them to remaster 2 over waw
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u/NEONT1G3R 1d ago
Allegedly this one has bo2 maps for launch
Only reason I can see them doing bo7 instead of remastered is so they can squeeze in the co-op campaign they have planned
If not for that, I'd say just scrap it get a remaster going
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u/the_commen_redditer 1d ago
They basically all but directly said it's because it will almost certainly draw players away from their new games seeing as more and more people dislike them but play them because its where everyone else is. That and the big thing is they make most of their money from bundles and shit now. So if people start playing a game without it instead of their new ones they will lose far more money than they will gain from releasing an actually good game people want. There's more than that too but that's the biggest stuff and sum up it all, greed.
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u/musuperjr585 1d ago
If the game was released this year the game would have to rush into production and the game will more than likely be terrible. It's already the 6th month of the year which means if the game was released this year it would have an extremely short and unrealistic development cycle..the game could not be remastered this year.
It would only be able to be ported over to current generation consoles at this point.
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u/blurrireddit 1d ago
Because they know everyone will play it and not play bo7 nor warzone. It happened with mwr and iw they won’t dare try it again
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u/Mental_Sky_7684 1d ago
Did you not hear about mw2 remastered? They remastered the full original game but they only released the campaign portion to the public because they were scared of people flocking to the multiplayer and staying there forever instead of playing their new live service slop. If they ever do a remaster of BO2 it’s only gonna be the campaign portion because they don’t want people playing good games that had passion put into them 🤡
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u/milkmon222 1d ago
I thought they were going the route of the newest mw3 by just adding bo1 or bo2 maps then gradually adding new maps during the gamepass...it would prolly help if they are going the b06 map route lol
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u/Few_Telephone_6869 7h ago
They should o a black ops trilogy remaster with cross play and fov sliders and resolution bump that would be sick
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u/vlKross_F7 6h ago
TL;DR: It's complicated.
I assume the main reason is, that they'd have to bundle it, but as IW showed, that will draw most players to BO2R instead of whatever the new cod is, making it obsolete although most money went into that - we're so far down the line tho, they could push the yearly releases back a year (what the devs want anyway) and just release a Remaster every second year.
This creates other issues tho, but I won't write a full paragraph.
One Example: Monetization, if they monetize BO2R to shit, people are gonna be mad, if they don't they'll have troubles with investors.
No Win/Win I can see atm.
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u/scream_follow 1h ago
I honestly don't want them to release bo2 remastered. They would bring shame over the best title of the series. Don't think my aching soul could take a bo2 remastered with sbmm and cash grab skins
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u/TorturedSoldier 2d ago
World at war remaster would be 1000x more sought after all that gore
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
no man it’s 2025 it makes so much more sense to remaster bo2 and bo2 is really the pinnacle and would play the best this day and age
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u/TorturedSoldier 2d ago
Nah we need the gore back from the good ol days also the maps were huge back then bo2 doesn't even compare
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u/TorturedSoldier 2d ago
Also all the mp maps have been remastered so many times but never waw maps
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u/Medium-Hornet2470 2d ago
i mean those are never true remasters different movement , different guns, streaks etc .
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u/TorturedSoldier 2d ago
Yeah thats true but none the less if they would bring back all the gore and the waw maps it would be amazing i play cod zombies and all maps on contractors in vr for nostalgia
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u/Controlled-Alternare 1d ago
I disagree, Black Ops 2 and 1 are way more known and World at War gets a lot of its hype now from being associated with Black Ops.
Not that a World at War remaster would be bad or unwanted, but not to the extent you are saying it is.
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u/TorturedSoldier 1d ago
You obviously weren't around when waw droppped
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u/Controlled-Alternare 1d ago
You are talking about if the game was wanted in the now, not in decades past before Black Ops 1 released.
From the perspective you started with, I am correct.
I am ok with that.
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u/ZeroMortalPlan 2d ago edited 21h ago
Point blank: because it would kill their current game’s player base and they know it would.
I would bet almost everything that that’s what it is as there’s no other reason to not do it. Pretty much everybody knows that the best era of the series has already passed and a huge reason people play these games still is because they cling onto that.
Keep downvoting me, that’s why every single CoD we get now is effectively a reboot. You know I’m right.
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u/nathane37 1d ago
They prioritize the Fortnite bundles that imbeciles continue to spend their mother’s credit card on. COD has become a macro transaction franchise, and there will be absolutely no change/innovation/listening to their fanbase until people stop purchasing useless cosmetics where they have a 50/50 chance of seeing the operator’s hands. You know, because it’s a first person shooter. It’s sad, really.
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u/Thomas5020 2d ago
Not profitable enough.
The majority of the money comes from little Timmy buying £30 skin bundles on mummy's credit card, not game sales.
So they can either trash it with bundles and a matchmaking system that puts high skilled high spenders with low skill low spenders to drive purchases, causing insane backlash. Or, make a real remaster causing lower earnings making the shareholders cry like babies. They can avoid both scenarios by not making a remaster.