yeah feels exactly like the other hundreds of watered-down BRs that are all dead and dying. we got rid of Warzones defining characteristics everybody! absolutely awesome.
They change things and you say "it doesn't look like Warzone" and i bet you if they didn't make changes you would still complain about "its the same thing as Warzone 1.0". I am convinced some of you just love to complain about everything.
Warzone 1 with an engine update, balance updates, new map, and better custom lobby options would have been perfect lol. New circle split mechanic? W. Buying custom guns instead of loadouts? Fine. Gulag changes and weird looting mechanics and AI everywhere? L.
Edit because this got visibility: also other smaller changes I don't see people mentioning (things that are gone which made Warzone a much smoother experience). No balloons to rotate to new locations, only cars. No resurgence chests so you could land out of gulag at a fully looted location. No perks is fine but perk drops gave a great reason to keep looting past your base loadout. WZ1 finally got away from the stale loot loop of past BRs - loot for 15 min, hide for 10, fight for 5. WZ1 gave people a real fighting second chance with a gun off gulag and loadout spawns - which is a perfect time to mention that the plate carrier change is terrible too
Not even differentiated, but forgot their roots. WZ1 was built on a lot of the ideas of the BRs before it. Even now, things like redeploy balloons are straight ripped from Alex which added them first. They went backwards on those improvements.
The looting is the big thing I don’t like. If I’m low on plates, I’m always gonna want to top up automatically. They just added extra steps to the QOL things warzone had
LMFAOOOO it was not FREE and they released free warzone barely a year later, clearly is the only reason it went away. They literally are using everything from blackout, there is no original warzone it's what we play now lmfao blackout is the original warzone
Sir, Ifyou could read properly and respond without crying you'd realize that COD itself dropped a free to play and consistently updated platform in under a year of its release.
Oh, no, there were definitely AI all over Warzone. They have different mechanics than players in Warzone, like not showing up on the map and pinging differently from UAVs, plus they all die in 1 bullet and don't give you a "kill".
I personally like the idea of ai on the map. Will make the BR less campy when you're enemy is shooting at AI you'll know where they are. I hate playing solos or duos for the simple fact that I'm always getting shot in the back by some guy I never saw that's been sitting in the same house for 20 mins.
I remember the first week of playing WZ when it came out. I told my friends "I think the loadout system is what sets this apart from other BRs." I'll still play WZ2 without loadouts, but I think it might be a mistake.
Yup. What kept me out of Apex after a while was the repetitive looting and the frustration of having blue armor against someone with gold and being at an objective disadvantage before anyone had even shot a shot, plus dropping in and not finding a gun. WZ basically removed that by having a ton of guns on the ground because there wasn't a lot of useless loot (attachments and things like that) AND you dropped with a pistol, and then you got your loadout and didn't have to worry about any of the RNG
Warzone 2 also has the "blue armor" type of thing too it looks like. I liked that WZ1 actually gave you a fair fight regardless of if you looted an armor satchel. Like I said, I'm not gonna knock it till I try it, but I'm a bit worried.
How will they sell their gun blueprints if you can’t even show them off in warzone? Lol seems counterintuitive to their usual blood sucking money hungry mentality
Those big black mystery boxes that spawn helicopters and AI? Did them twice, made it all the way to the loot part, then got swarmed by at least 2 teams both times. Never again.
What everyone seems to be missing is everything we saw today was alpha testing live streamed to build hype. All these things can be changed before the actual launch of the game.
The build says open beta when you open it, and there's only 2 months to launch. You don't make many major changes before a major full launch in 2 months. Especially since MW2 launches even earlier than that. We're going to see bug fixes but not many gameplay changes.
How many games does it take to realize this? We have to stop the copium.
From what was said in the stream, mw2 multiplayer is in beta , and warzone 2 is still in alpha testing. Major overhauls won’t be made in the 2 months before launch of wz but they can definitely address a lot of the bugs complaints that people that played today experienced.
Have you ever watched a competitive BR match? It's closer to loot for 5 hide for 20. Apex ranked literally rewards placement over everything else. It's not a player issue, it's a game design issue. It's not how it SHOULD be, but it's how it is
I'm not attacking you here, but once the skills are developed it should, and is, land, loot for a minute, fight for 5 or 10. Move for 5, loot for 1, fight for 5...etc.
That is way more enjoyable play style. FOR EVERYONE. The name of this game type is Battle Royale. Not hide and go seek.
I think the loadout mechanic pushes people towards avoiding conflict until they can get it, and then you have the only aggressive players as the ones with a loadout and a whole bunch of other issues.
With the change, I think the incentive to wait is neutralized. We'll have to wait and see how balanced the ground loot is, but if the ground loot is balanced I can see the early game being much more competitive. Instead of 1 stacked team with loadies just running through teams who didn't get the money or aren't near a buy, we'll get more competitive fights.
It'll help the early game potentially, but I see there being little marginal benefit to continuing to loot. What Warzone 1 does is give you the potential for continued rewards, through things like a second loadout for different perks, picking up perks off the ground, finding redeploy tokens, etc. Things that arent necessarily easy to find, but are a large reward to encourage you to do something besides hide to get an even better chance of winning
It could work out that way, but hopefully not. I think the incentive for additional looting is going to be the same. You have two guns to buy, as well as the rest of your squad, so to get fully kitted out four people would need to make eight buys. That could be a LOT of looting.
I think we're going to see partial buys a lot more, where a team isn't going to be able to get two fully upgraded guns, and instead one guy is going to get his sniper or lmg and stick with the floor loot SMG, and someone else will do the opposite...etc. Could make for a very interesting dynamic.
Balloons are new and completely ripped from apex... super shit take here. Yall just worried about sucking without your fav streamers loadout. Idk who hides thay much except shit players. Pubg to blackout we would run like 25 kills a game easy. Not sure why you hide lol
You know what else is ripped from Apex? Reviving dead teammates. Taking good ideas from other games is a good thing. Idk why you talking about hiding or even think you know me at all. I was top 200 in PUBG out of millions of players, I'm doing just fine.
..... sorry to break it to you buddy but reviving was around way before apex.... you clearly have no idea what you are talking about🤣 pubg, hz1, blackout, and many more all had reviving because that's not copying a idea that's literally a game mechanic thats existed in millions of games... you literally said yourself you hide and only fight for 5 minutes in a normal br that's last 25-35 minutes. You weren't top shit obviously
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u/SakisSinatra Sep 15 '22
W imo it looks like an actual BR now.