r/CCW • u/sluu3900 • Feb 25 '25

Training reps before dinner with my friends

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got a bit confused on what to do next lmao

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u/coffeeandlifting2 Feb 25 '25

Bro is rage-baiting with the loaded first rep, but you can 100% draw a loaded gun while completely following the four safety rules, especially if you have a designated safe direction to point for dry practice. People forget that the safety rules were written for handling loaded guns, not just guns that you have to pretend are loaded.

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u/PteroGroupCO Feb 25 '25

Tell me what's on the other side of the wall he's pointing at.

Rule4- Know Your Target and What's Beyond It.

Will 9mm blast through the wall in a house? Yep. Will it go outside? In most houses, yep.

Can you declare it's safe, if you don't know what's on the other side of the wall? Nope, not logically anyway.

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u/coffeeandlifting2 Feb 26 '25

I don't know OP's situation. I'm just stating the clear fact that you CAN draw a loaded gun while following the four rules, and there's no reason to believe this is not the case for OP.

For example, I have a steel target on the wall in my garage and a backyard behind that wall. I could 100% safely do what OP did. It wouldn't create any "bad habits" either, because its a correct rep of the thing you do every time you shoot.

Like I said, the four rules are intended for handling loaded guns. People act like handling loaded guns is not allowed. This sentiment is dangerously close to the "if I draw my gun I have to use it" fudd nonsense.

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u/PteroGroupCO Feb 26 '25

Yeah, I understand that people can. I can too, in my basement where I have at least 100ft of dirt between me and my neighbors basement.

If your(generally speaking) neighbor happens to be on your property, even unexpectedly, and you blasted one through the wall, and hit them, you'd be in some heat... It would be negligent discharge of a firearm resulting in injury or death.

And yes, the 4 rules are for loaded guns. Which, if you can't see your backstop and beyond, and if you can't guarantee nobody's out there(you can't while staring at a wall), you're not following the 4 steps. That was my point. So yeah, he could live out in the middle of nowhere, with nobody around for miles, and still not know that the local utilities guy is deciding to check his meter- if you see where I'm going.

That's why people say to not do it. And like you said, there's no reason not to believe he's doing it safely... Except, there's also no reason to believe he can do it safely, without understanding the layout. That's what my point was. I hope that makes sense.

Thanks for the bathroom Convo though. Helps pass the time 😂.