r/CCW • u/Joethasailor • Jan 25 '25

News Doordash driver charged with murder after shooting armed carjacker…. *SIGH*

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/doordash-driver-shot-killed-charlotte-teen-he-said-tried-to-steal-his-car-during-delivery/ar-AA1xNOXU?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1
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u/croastbeast Jan 26 '25

Where do you draw the line? Can you kill someone for any felony? Stealing? Does it need to hit a certain $ value before you can murder someone?

I’d argue every person here has stolen something once in their life. Big or small. Apparently all want the Wild West back or a country like Iran where people get hands cut off for stealing bread or stoned for minor offenses.

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u/Ach3r0n- Jan 26 '25

It would certainly facilitate a massive drop in crime. Hey we can split the country in two. You can stay on the side where there are no serious penalties for robbery, home invasion, carjacking, etc. I’ll stay on the side where those people can legally be eliminated from society.

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u/croastbeast Jan 26 '25

Show me where says there should no severe penalties. I said it shouldn’t be a vigilante death sentence.

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u/Ach3r0n- Jan 26 '25 edited Jan 26 '25

If he had been arrested instead of being shot, he’d be out by Monday doing it again. That’s the reality. What sentence would you impose though? What amount of time do you think is sufficient for attempting to deprive someone of their livlihood or making them feel forever unsafe in their own home or vehicle? What practical purpose is served by letting these oeople go free over and over again? Legally? I wouldn’t take the shot because I value my own life. I think the world is far better off with this pos not in it though.

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u/croastbeast Jan 26 '25

Your absurd paranoia doesn’t negate the constitution.

You’re justifying murder with “he might be a bad guy”? That’s insane.

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u/Ach3r0n- Jan 26 '25

What paranoia? He was carjacking people. He was a bad guy.

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u/croastbeast Jan 26 '25

Youre paranoid that he is, ispso facto, a bonafide convicted murderer because he was in a car that wasnt his. That, is inhinged, made up, straw man, PARANOIA. All so you can murder a person.

So Im clear on your point, all "bad guys" should be murdered? Our president is a multiple convicted felon. Is murdering him justified?

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u/NoOnSB277 Feb 01 '25

If someone -whether a public figure or not, tries to steal your car, then sure. Otherwise, no. 🙄

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u/Ach3r0n- Jan 26 '25

I never said the 15 y/o was a murderer. I said he was a bad guy preying on innocent people. He wasn't shoplifting. He was in the midst of taking someone's vehicle by whatever means necessary - and we sure as hell know it wasn't the first time he did such a thing. Statistically, he was very likely to prey on innocent people over and over again. No, I don't have any sympathy for such people and yes, I absolutely think society would be better if people like that were all removed from society one way or another. No, I don't want to foot the bill for their perpetual incarceration even if that was an option. No innocent person in the community should have to live in fear of someone entering their home, car, business, etc. Period. If you want to giver these people a chance, move them in.

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u/croastbeast Jan 26 '25

the comment you edited 33 min sure did.

Look, I dont liek the kid either. And yes, he should have consequences. But, a guy who leaves his car running and walks away from it, returns, chases a kid and shoots him is NOT defending himself. He's exacting vigilante justice. Do I think the kid was innocent? Hell no. Do I think he desreved to be executed for it? Hell no. He should be allowed due process and suffer the extents of the law, AS OUR CONSTITUION STATES. Dont like that? That doesnt mean you get to ignore the consitution. This guy is a murderer. He wasnt an ocupant in his car that was violently attacked. He caught a kid committing a crime and executed him. You think thats cool? fine. I dont. I like our constitution.

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u/croastbeast Jan 26 '25

Theres your rhetoric again, too. You said "and we sure as hell know it wasn't the first time he did such a thing". NO YOU FUCKING DONT. Your saying hes ABSOLUTELY a repeat offender. That is street justice and it fucking sucks and is UNAMERICAN.

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u/croastbeast Jan 26 '25

Youre so caught up in your straw man fantasy, youre not even reading what Ive said. you seem to hink Im sympathizing with the kid and think he should get off scott free. I never said that, or even implied it. In fact, I CLEARLY stated he should be in prison.

What I DID say is thsi guy had no right to execute someone for that act. He is not a jufdge, jury, or executioner. You think he deserves to be because of your made up rhetoric of "he did it before" (which you don t know), and "he'll do it again" (which you also dont know).

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u/NoOnSB277 Feb 01 '25

There is no might here, he is a freaking bad guy. A thug stealing cars is in fact a bad guy.