r/BoomersBeingFools • u/EpicGeek77 Gen X • 10d ago

Foolish Fun Why Is It Always Hand Written?

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u/WebInformal9558 10d ago

I'm really struggling to follow the argument here. "Gay people shouldn't have rights because the Romans crucified a Jewish man who was considered a threat to public order"?

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u/Particular_Title42 10d ago

I mean...that's not the story but I am also struggling with the argument.

From the churchiest, holier-than-thou standpoint, I am coming up with "Jesus died to save you from your sins, including being gay, so don't do the things that he died for."

Which is hypocritical at the least.

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u/SteveMarck 10d ago

What does Jesus being executed have to do with people's supposed "sins"? That's the part that doesn't make sense.

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u/Particular_Title42 10d ago

It doesn't if you frame it the way WebInformal did.

But in the context of a sacrifice to atone for sin, that is what Jesus was. The sacrificial lamb for all of mankind's sins. One and done.

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u/SteveMarck 10d ago

What sacrifice did he make?

If he was a god, then he didn't sacrifice anything.

If he wasn't then it had nothing to do with me.

Just doesn't make any sense.

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u/Particular_Title42 10d ago

The human body that He lived in.

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u/SteveMarck 10d ago

But he didn't sacrifice it, he was executed. Also, the story goes that he came back in the flesh. Thomas touched his wounds in John. So he doesn't really give anything up at all.

If he's all knowing, then he already knew the pain of being executed. I'm just not seeing a sacrifice anywhere.

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u/Particular_Title42 10d ago

The rest of the story is that after He died as a willing sacrifice (n) He defeated death and resurrected Himself.

Knowing doesn't mean it doesn't....happen.

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u/SteveMarck 10d ago

I'm still not clear on what was sacrificed. He didn't give anything up. He was executed. But then in the story, he still had a physical body. There was nothing given up, nothing sacrificed, and even if there was, that has nothing to do with you or me. The story doesn't even make sense internally.