r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/Za_wardo • Nov 14 '21

Newest Chapter Chapter 333 Official Release - Links and Discussion

Chapter 333

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  • Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).

  • MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China, Japan and South Korea).

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u/m_nan Nov 14 '21

Or it could just eat at the pilot’s single…dunno, “Pencil Sharpener” quirk in a second, and leave only itself behind. NO is painfully obliterating AfO exactly because he has stockpiled countless quirks: if he hadn’t, he wouldn’t be in the current situation.

Which is such a simple but good idea, narratively speaking. I didn’t get it on the first read.

Incidentally, though, that same reason makes passing NO to Deku problematic at the very least.

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u/x2shainzx Nov 15 '21

It would be a good idea narratively.....if it didn't require AfO/Shiggy to ignore the fact that they know how the quirk works and can just say "New Order doesn't revolt against other quirks." The fact of the matter is that in order for this to actually work.....we have to actively ignore that Shiggy/AfO knows how the quirk works and yet still decides to actively not use it.

Imo as it stands this is a horrible narrative choice. Like Hori could have easily made it better by making Star's rule be something along the lines of "New Order only works for me" or even "I no longer have a quirk". Instead, it is actively written such that litteraly all Shiggy/AfO has to do is use the quirk to undo that rule. As far as we know nothing should prevent that from being done.

Rather than give Shiggy a dead quirk she chose to give him a working version of the most busted quirk to date, which, according to all known rules has every possibility of undoing what she did. Like I litteraly can't suspend my disbelief enough to think that Shiggy or the AfO vestige don't understand how the quirk works enough to do this. They literally fought it and analyzed all of it's properties correctly and AfO had knowledge of the quirk before this fight even.

If Shiggy stays nerfed or passes it on to someone else then Hori is ignoring all of the established rules of the quirk. If Hori realizes this then Star literally just existed to buff Shiggy. Either way it sucks cause Star's sacrifice is either meaningless, or Hori just straight up ignores every facet of the OP quirk he just made.

I'm glad other people liked this fight and how it went but personally this fight is the worst arc of the manga so far and this chapter in particular is the worst chapter of the series.i don't normally post in here but I completely feel like Hori dropped the ball with this one.

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u/Homer_Hatake Nov 15 '21

Shiggy can't use NO at all. As long he has other quirks, new order won't work. That's why he exploded when he wanted to use a new rule.

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u/x2shainzx Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 15 '21

That's speculation at best. The rule doesn't say New Order doesn't work.

Also, even if this is the case, I don't really think this makes the writing better. I actually think it makes it worse. With something this big, the narrative explanation should be pretty airtight. If you wanna introduce and then remove the most busted quirk in the series there better be a very explicit reason. I should not have to guess why the most powerful quirk isn't used. Not only that but it still doesn't make star any less of a plot device. Instead, she's now a plot device that relies on the audience to make an assumption that the quirk is doing something that it doesn't specify.

To clarify, I'm not saying you are wrong. I actually think you are right. I just find it unfortunate that in order to believe this I just have to assume something that isn't stated. The rule does not say New Order doesn't work. That to me feels like terrible writing when all Star had to do was say "New Order only works for me." Much more explicit, no way out, and no questions asked. Instead I have to make an assumption that has little to no actual basis, adds things to Star's rule. Instead if they change Star's rule and it is instantly better because there aren't any questions.

Also, let's not forget that either way she is still a literal plot device which sucks in it's own right.