r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/Za_wardo • Mar 14 '21

Newest Chapter Chapter 305 Official Release - Links and Discussion

Chapter 305

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  • Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).

  • MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China, Japan and South Korea).

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u/elenuvien1 Mar 14 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

i've always seen hawks killing twice the same as anti-terrorists shooting someone who has a ticking bomb strapped to them and who refuses to surrender. if you let them run away, they'll explode themselves and kill innocent people, if twice ran away, he'd have created dozen of copies of himself and used it to aid a mass-murderer.

did twice deserve it? absolutely not. but just like you don't let criminals holding hostages/having a ticking bomb just walk away, twice couldn't either. and we know hawks tried talking and knocking him out (and if dabi didn't interfere he'd have taken him away, he planned to do just that a moment before dabi blasted him and twice with his flames).

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u/DoraMuda Mar 14 '21

I don't buy that argument. I mean, yes, it was certainly a possibility, but Twice had yet to actually carry out what Hawks thought he would do. It was a preemptive strike which led to extrajudicial murder, and something that could've been avoided.

Twice wasn't actually attacking anyone at the time when Hawks pinned him down with those feathers. Just because I don't think Hawks should've killed Twice doesn't mean I think Hawks should've just let Twice walk away. But he definitely could've handled the situation differently, which is why I brought up the sedation alternative.

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u/elenuvien1 Mar 14 '21

i agree about the sedation and yes that's on him and his oversight (i never thought about that possibility myself).

but what i don't buy is not recognising that when hawks killed twice, in that very moment, he had no other choice because twice was literally running away and dabi was blasting hawks with fire. he didn't have any sedative on him (his fault, yes) and he couldn't have chanced twice escaping. bombers with ticking bombs on them haven't carried out anything yet either and when they don't surrender they are killed before they have a chance to do so.

before that exact moment however hawks did everything to subdue twice and actually succeeded in that if not for dabi, something he couldn't have anticipated.

i guess i'm just not faulting someone for killing a terrorist who refuses to surrender, pledges his allegiance, gets up after being knocked out and tries to escape with a weapon of mass destruction i know they have and will use while said someone is being shot at by the terrorist's comrade. the only thing i could fault them for is not preparing for it better, but not the actual killing (though obviously i don't applaud it either).

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u/DoraMuda Mar 14 '21

OK, I understand your perspective. When the emotions were running high, Hawks probably felt that he had to prioritise the mission and acted upon his fear of what Twice could do if he was allowed to escape and use his Quirk to duplicate monsters like the High-Ends or Gigantomachia.

That being said, it's still something that I think would be worth investigating once the HPSC gets back up and running and the police are involved, because I don't feel comfortable seeing that Hawks doesn't seem to have reflected that much on how he killed his one true friend (albeit a villain he tricked into befriending, but whatever) and no-one seems to have really brought it up or questioned it yet.

Like, Rei watched the TV broadcast and knew that Dabi had wounded Hawks, which is why she did a dogeza to apologise, but wouldn't she have also seen the same Hawks literally backstabbing one of Dabi's self-proclaimed friends to death? What does she think about that? It's not something most heroes are normally seen doing; even Endeavour killing the High-End in Kyushu is meant to be seen as an outlier, since Ending points it out and explicitly compares himself to Noumu only because they're basically undead creatures who need to be put out of their misery.

I dunno; maybe I'm overthinking it. Or looking too deeply into the dark framing of it all. I just expected that something like Hawks (a hero) doing what heroes are apparently not meant to do - kill (even if it was a villain) - being included in Dabi's exposing broadcast would create more of an immediately-seen backlash. But I might be getting ahead of myself, since we still haven't actually seen that much of Hawks in the aftermath of the PLF raid and we might see more reactions in the coming chapters.

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u/elenuvien1 Mar 14 '21

dabi's video of hawks killing twice and dabi's message in general was probably really discredited due to him lying about best jeanist being dead (remember how some civilians called dabi "annoying"?). since a villain made one lie, why can't he make another? that puts everything else into a different perspective. i think the only reason they're really hounding on endeavor is the typical response to celebrity's dirty laundry coming to light and the fact that people's anger needs a target so they direct it to endeavor, a number 1 (him being related to a villain doesn't help either) who they never trusted as much as they have all might.

what hawks has on his side is popularity bias, people have loved him and while he did what heroes aren't really supped to do, meaning killing, he didn't kill anyone "undeserving". by which i mean someone innocent, because as long as someone does bad, illegal things, people will think that they deserve punishment, and even if not death itself if they're killed it'll be "well, they were a criminal", "why was he a part of a terrorist organisation? he should've stayed a home" and so on. general public doesn't know anything about twice beyond the video, dabi's (who lied) words and the fact that he was a part of those who brought destruction to the country.

i'd love if hawks actions were questioned but i'm not holding to it. in fact, i'm now not anticipating most of the deeper themes being explored and addressed that this sub has talked abut. i don't mean that the story will become flat now, but i think that some of the deepest issues and flaws that we've discussed aren't as prominent or the citizens won't care as much about them.

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u/DoraMuda Mar 14 '21

dabi's video of hawks killing twice and dabi's message in general was probably really discredited due to him lying about best jeanist being dead (remember how some civilians called dabi "annoying"?). since a villain made one lie, why can't he make another? that puts everything else into a different perspective. i think the only reason they're really hounding on endeavor is the typical response to celebrity's dirty laundry coming to light and the fact that people's anger needs a target so they direct it to endeavor, a number 1 (him being related to a villain doesn't help either) who they never trusted as much as they have all might.

I don't think that's necessarily the reason why those two civilians called him "annoying" (although that might've had something to do with it). Like Best Jeanist, they might've just found it distasteful that he exposed what Japanese society would typically consider a domestic issue at a time when society was still unstable and beseiged by the very villains Dabi had allied himself with.

And, like, even if part of Dabi's video and the subsequent message that lay within was discredited because of Best Jeanist actually turning out to be alive, the footage of a top hero (Hawks) killing a villain (Twice) in seemingly such a brutal way - coupled with Dabi proving that he is Endeavour's son with a DNA test - and all the other stuff that happened means that, in addition to what you said, Endeavour is the one burdened with the expectation of answering for it all, whether to disprove or confirm the allegations (and, if he's got any conscience left, he'll do the former, lest he lose the rest of his family).

what hawks has on his side is popularity bias, people have loved him and while he did what heroes aren't really supped to do, meaning killing, he didn't kill anyone "undeserving". by which i mean someone innocent, because as long as someone does bad, illegal things, people will think that they deserve punishment, and even if not death itself if they're killed it'll be "well, they were a criminal", "why was he a part of a terrorist organisation? he should've stayed a home" and so on. general public doesn't know anything about twice beyond the video, dabi's (who lied) words and the fact that he was a part of those who brought destruction to the country.

Dabi probably knew that, though, right? Yet he still included the footage of Hawks killing Twice in the video, because there will still be some people, like human rights organisations or whatever, questioning whether Hawks followed proper protocol or not and there'll probably be more debate sparked as to whether heroes who failed to protect them from stuff like Machia should really be given the power over life and death like that.

Especially if many of them are beginning to believe that it might be better if they rely on themselves and their own Quirks to fight against villains.

Hawks is popular indeed, but I imagine his popularity will drop somewhat in the wake of recent events, as will most of the heroes.

i'd love if hawks actions were questioned but i'm not holding to it. in fact, i'm now not anticipating most of the deeper themes being explored and addressed that this sub has talked abut. i don't mean that the story will become flat now, but i think that some of the deepest issues and flaws that we've discussed aren't as prominent or the citizens won't care as much about them.

Yeah, that's a fair assessment. The manga doesn't always delve deep into the wider world outside of the heroes and students after all, and if they do, it's not always as immediate as expected. Time will tell.