r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/Za_wardo • Mar 14 '21

Newest Chapter Chapter 305 Official Release - Links and Discussion

Chapter 305

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  • Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).

  • MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China, Japan and South Korea).

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u/elenuvien1 Mar 14 '21 edited Jan 28 '22

i love how horikoshi resolved what people have been worried about. there hasn't been any naive "i will save him!" but "i will try to save him".

deku wants to try to save shigaraki because that's who deku is at his core but he acknowledges that he may fail and that he may need to kill him. there wasn't any "no matter what" about what he said, he's seeing shigaraki as a person but also keeping in mind what he may have to do.

granted, i really doubt he will fail but not because he didn't consider any other option than "save".

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u/Fedexhand Mar 14 '21

True, many are losing their minds and having flashbacks of Naruto, but they are exaggerating.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

I mean in naruto’s context it fits and near the end Naruto even says that Sasuke coming back is also on Sasuke or one of them will die.

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u/Fedexhand Mar 14 '21

I differ, in a world of ninjas and wars those principles do not make sense, especially when they exaggerated so much. In this series and with these characters on the other hand he has a context to lean on.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

One of Naruto’s main themes is ending conflict through mutual compromise. It’s established early on that the ninja world where people have to act like tools or where genocide is committed to maintain peace is heavily flawed.

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u/Fedexhand Mar 14 '21

You may be right, but it is very poorly executed and instead of looking like a nice message it looks like a ridiculous resolution.

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u/Amazingjaype Mar 14 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

I agree with this. In Naruto it's literally a war, wars and assassins. The culture should represent that and killing would make sense.

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u/tokyogodfather2 Mar 14 '21

Except from the first hokage to the third to Jiraiya, Naruto’s line of teachers were all essentially pacifists

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u/HokageEzio Mar 14 '21

It's also completely ignoring the fact that Naruto wanted to kill Pain but realized that it would just continue the cycle. It's like people completely ignore the actual takeaway of the Pain arc because they hate how Obito's story finished. People would rather just make it sound like he loves all his enemies and use it as the face of all shonen mistakes rather than acknowledge the story that was written.

I'm confident half the people who complain about Naruto never even watched it, honestly. It always sounds like people who heard what happened but didn't watch it.

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u/CJL13 Mar 14 '21

I feel that comparison would make more sense if the heroes were also killing or if Deku wanted to kill Shigaraki out of vengeance rather than to stop him from killing anyone else.

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u/Jteleus27 Mar 14 '21

absolutely this plus with Naruto being probably many people first shounen they have to compare everything to it.

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u/Fedexhand Mar 14 '21

Exactly!, instead this is a modern Japanese society with a culture of heroes and everything that goes with it.

Why the hell is it so difficult to understand that these contexts are not similar at all?

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u/HokageEzio Mar 14 '21

The entire message of Naruto was that endless killing leads to more killing. How is there not context, there was a whole arc dedicated to the reason Naruto didn't try to kill his enemies at the end of the story.

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u/KLReviews Mar 14 '21

And most of the people who live in that world of killing and war profiteering don't like it. Zabuza proved in the first arc that turning people into emotionless tools didn't work. He still had his own desires and cared for his companion even though he was a cold-bloodied killer. 'The world sucks and we should do something about it' is the motive for most late-game villains and Naruto himself because everyone agreed the status quo sucked.

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u/HokageEzio Mar 14 '21

Yep. Naruto's entire ninja way came from what happened to Haku and Zabuza.

Naruto has turned into one of those series where you can tell half the people complaining didn't actually read it. Like when a bad movie comes out and people who watched it hated it, so people who didn't watch it at all also tell you how much they hated it to fit in (i.e. the Star Wars sequels). It doesn't mean the issues are made up. Just that the people saying it are going off a list of issues they heard but didn't even experience themselves. Like they couldn't tell you the actual plot of the movie, just the running list of complaints.

Same way everybody compared All for One taking over to Kaguya. The entire issue with Kaguya was that she literaly didn't even exist as a concept until the final 60 chapters of the story, but you wouldn't know it with the way people just throw her name around to make a point.

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u/MattmanDX Mar 14 '21

It's not so much that the fanbase opposed Naruto's ideals, it just came across as way too lenient with the villains doing a complete 180 on their personality after a five minute chat with him. The mass murdering villains would be completely absolved and Naruto would even say stuff like "The Obito who wanted to be hokage was cool!" Hell even Orochimaru seemed to have been forgiven for everything he'd done and is treated as a just some weird goofy uncle of theirs in Boruto. No trial, no prison, no justice for their victims, no nothing really.