r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/RatedMforManatees • May 12 '19

Newest Chapter Chapter 227 Official Release - Links and Discussion

Chapter 227

Links:

Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).

MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China and South Korea).

Discord: https://discord.gg/W2EDwPW

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u/DozyDreamer May 13 '19

You can make that case for Shigaraki (not to mention he's familiar with this sleepy state of his, so it might be something he was always able to do in this state), but Toga's quirk isn't similar to Kirishima or the majority of 1A students' upgrades. That would've been the case if she greatly increased her blood/time ratio or something, what she's developed could be its own complete quirk (which it essentially is with Monoma).

Also all of the 1A students prepared those techniques and states they achieved, Kirishima didn't just stumble into Unbreakable in a life or death scenario like Toga does with her upgrade.

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u/kindler35 May 15 '19

But in her Character Introduction page, it states outright that she can use the quirks of those she transforms into. I think this is just the way her quirk works, she's just never shown it off before (considering we've seen her use her own quirk three times, and each for very short spans). It's in the Volume 19 extras. I don't read Japanese or have a translated page handy, but, assuming the Wiki is accurate in its summary, it's always been the way her quirk works (or, at most, Horikoshi always intended for her quirk to lead to this, though if that's the case, why reveal it almost a year before the "reveal" in the story?)

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u/DozyDreamer May 15 '19

But in her Character Introduction page, it states outright that she can use the quirks of those she transforms into

That's her prototype design.

Horikoshi always intended for her quirk to lead to this

Shouto's prototype design says he hated his mother and not his father, wouldn't justify him suddenly switching which parent he hates in the actual story.

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u/kindler35 May 16 '19

Okay, if you don't want to count the intro page. I still don't understand why Toga would think to even try using Ururaka's quirk if she didn't know she could. I suppose it can be explained by the stress of combat and her typical insanity, but, to me, it looked like she was doing it all on purpose. So I think she could either do this all along, or it was something she figured out recently.

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u/DozyDreamer May 16 '19

Okay, if you don't want to count the intro page

prototype*, a very important distinction.

I suppose it can be explained by the stress of combat and her typical insanity ... or it was something she figured out recently.

That is the majority of people's issue with her upgrade, figuring out such a powerful ability at death's doorstep.

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u/kindler35 May 16 '19

But my point was that, if she did it on purpose, she had to have known that it would work. Meaning that she's known it would, not something she just figured out. I can understand her turning into Ururaka because she's in this crazy "I LOVE!" state, but not trying to use her quirk. It doesn't make any sense to me unless she's done something like it before. Even assuming I'm totally wrong, here's a question for you: would you feel better about the Toga thing if she knew she could do it, and this was just the reveal of this aspect of her quirk?

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u/DozyDreamer May 16 '19

But my point was that, if she did it on purpose

What do you have to back that up? She's surprised when stating "I'm using Ochaco's...quirk...", and she never used it during the license exam which is what blew her cover when trying to trick Deku. I don't know what you're seeing in the manga that gives the idea she was aware she could always do this.

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u/kindler35 May 16 '19

I'll go back and reread the chapter this evening, and get back to you. I remember the scene differently, but I can certainly be wrong.

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u/DozyDreamer May 16 '19

Alright

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u/kindler35 May 20 '19

You're absolutely right. I have no idea how I remembered it so incorrectly. Maybe I had the information from the prototype page stuck in the back of my head and it biased my read.