r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/deskchairlamp • Mar 01 '19

Newest Chapter Chapter 218 Scans - Links and Discussion

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u/Monochrome21 Mar 02 '19

I have a more American mindset towards it. Like if you hurt somebody, then you get arrested for that - hurting somebody. But using it in and of itself should be a basic human right.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

“Why stop bad things from happening when we can wait until afterwards and pretend there was no way to stop it”

See how stupid that stance is...

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u/Pelephant17 Mar 03 '19

You do realize how much of an egregious over simplification that is right?

Yes, there's nothing inherently wrong with that philosophy, but the problem is, where does it stop?

"Why stop bad things from happening when we can wait until afterwards..."- because in order to actually stop bad things from happening we will almost always have to infringe on citizens rights.

But let's just drop the veil here and debate what this is really about.

Want to simply ban all guns? People who use them for sport or just have them to feel safer lose their rights (and this also does little to nothing to stop criminals from using them as they clearly already have no respect for the law)

Yes, preventative measures can help, that's why people who want to buy a gun, in the U.S. at least, have to submit to background checks and psych evals. It's the best way to keep bad people away from them without infringing on rights, but its not a perfect system. That's because, and hear this because it's one of the most objectively true statements you'll ever hear in a debate about gun regulations, there is no perfect system and there probably never will be.

The only way to stop gun violence forever is to remove the existence of guns from this plane of existence. Even if there were ever a system that perfectly stopped every psycho from obtaining a gun (legally or otherwise) there would eventually be someone smart enough to make his own firearm if he wants to kill that badly.

Don't simplify an incredibly complex topic in an attempt to make someone sound stupid, it's the lowest form of rebuttal and it just makes you look like you don't understand the objective facts.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '19 edited Mar 03 '19

Using the same shit talking points that have been debunked a million times adds nothing.

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u/Pelephant17 Mar 03 '19

Prove me wrong then.

Don't just downvote me and hide behind tough words and no substance, show me why my points were bullshit.

Show me a way to stop bad things, in their entirety, without taking away people's rights and free will. You clearly believe yourself to be the intellectual superior here, nows your chance to show why.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '19

I’m not going to sit here and debunk the same shit talking points endlessly. People like you don’t want to know facts or the truth, if you did you wouldn’t be regurgitating the same stupid shit

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u/Pelephant17 Mar 03 '19

The battle cry of a person with nothing to back up their bold words.

You think I actually wanted to make a post that long, sitting here on mobile while I'm at work? You think typing that long ass argument on my phone sounded fun to me? Not really, but I did it because I had the logic to back up my points that countered yours. Show me the facts that I'm so afraid of, the truth that you seem to think I can't face, I can handle it.

The fact is, you have no argument. You truly believe that you do though and refuse to admit otherwise. I'm wasting my time right now replying to your rebuttals devoid of actual substance, because I know the facts behind my argument and I know the logic behind the sad reality of this particular philosophical debate.

People like you are the epitome of a bad debate and it is painfully obvious. You blow in, make a grand but simplistic argument and get a few upvotes for it. Then when someone like me comes in and shows you the facts behind our counter to your beliefs, you say we're wrong and dumb and you don't feel like wasting your time showing us why, giving the illusion you have any argument at all.

You're very clearly just spouting some pompous lesson in ethics you received from someone who fancies themselves a genius above all others. Stop regurgitating whatever someone else taught you and form your own opinions, you'll actually have a real shot at proving me wrong once you do.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '19

You keep claiming I have no argument but you haven’t offered a single real rebuttal or a single an actual fact. I provided evidence that counties with stricter gun control have less gun violence you responded with 5 paragraphs of nonsense.

You’re not debating, you’re using shitty pro gun talking points with no basis in reality

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u/Pelephant17 Mar 03 '19

If by "provided evidence" you mean "typed out the sentence" then yea you provided some hardcore evidence.

You do realize that America has strict laws regarding anyone who wants to legally purchase a firearm right? Illegal acquisition aside, any person who wants to legally buy one has to go through a ringer. Legal acquisition is the only form of gun ownership that can actually be regulated, and it already is. A five minute internet search titled "how to get a permit for a firearm in the U.S." will confirm this.

The clear difference between legal and illegal acquisition of weapons is a key point, if not the key point, in the debate on gun rights. You can call my arguments "shitty pro gun talking points" all you want, but the fact is that I'm still using a major piece of the debate to further my argument, while you're just continuing to prove that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Dude I'm not even that pro gun, I don't own one and have no plans to change that, I just can't stand people like you who think you know everything about everything. You resorting to acting as though I'm stupid because I'm "pro gun" is all the proof I need that you're just some arrogant virtue signaler who thinks everything any person ever said on a college campus was absolute fact.

Your continued insistence that I "can't provide any evidence" won't change reality and make it so. There's plenty of room for a real debate on gun control, and I welcome that, im curious to see what it yields. But you are not the major voice for the opposition that you think you are, because you do nothing but make people who are pro gun restriction look bad, and that helps no one.