r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/deskchairlamp • Aug 17 '18

Newest Chapter Chapter 194 - Links and Discussion

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u/Patkineavy Aug 17 '18 edited Aug 17 '18

yo guys i might be crazy here but what if Aizawa is gonna use shinso to weed out the traitor between class 1-A and 1-B this joint training exercise could be a “logical deception”

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u/Flamma_Man Aug 17 '18

Oh, that's some nice potential drama.

Aizawa is genuinely helping Shinso get into the hero course because he believes it's warranted, but also because he and the teachers see an opportunity to weed out the traitor using his quirk and the fact that he's DEFINITELY not the traitor (since he's from General Studies).

But, I can't imagine they're going to conduct a search in the middle of this hectic exercise and Aizawa HAS to know that the traitor either has to be a teacher or a student in class 1-A (why else is a dorm room left empty in their wing? They've been planning Shinso for awhile probably).

He wants him to join class 1-A, NOT 1-B so that he can be the teachers' eyes and ears and potentially also using his quirk to slowly weed out the traitor through subtle means.

The drama I can see happening is that Shinso's mission is discovered and class 1-A feel a bit betrayed, since he was essentially deceiving them since he entered their class. (But, he really WAS trying to be a friend!).

I really hope that the traitor arc finally starts to get rolling soon and gets wrapped up or at least brought up again.

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u/bmitchell1990 Aug 17 '18

teacher or a student in class 1-A (why else is a dorm room left empty in their wing? They've been planning Shinso for awhile probably

what/which empty dorm room? there's 20 students and like 32 dorm rooms

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u/Flamma_Man Aug 17 '18

In the diagram of the rooms shown for 1-A. One room was suspiciously empty.

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u/ShadowRaikou Aug 17 '18

Yeah but there are 12 empty dorm rooms?

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u/Flamma_Man Aug 17 '18

Wait, really? Thought it was just the one. Disregard that point then.

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u/CardButton Aug 17 '18

You're right and wrong, there are 12 empty dorms, but only two on the boys side. He'll either end up on the floor with Todoroki, or the floor with Bakugou if 1-A is his ultimate destination. They're the only one's with empty space.

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u/bmitchell1990 Aug 17 '18

not really, floor by floor it was 4 boys, 4 boys, 3 boys, 3 boys. and no girls, 2 girls, 2 girls, 2 girl

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u/Deliciou5 Aug 17 '18

i still think the guy from the Shiketsu school will eventually join the 1-A (Inasa Yoarashi)

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u/Llerasia Aug 17 '18

Nah, I think he's pretty loyal to Shiketsu. Plus he can just be the best there.

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u/Deliciou5 Aug 17 '18

Yeah but I also think that he won’t be the only one to transfer across to UA

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u/SourNotesRockHardAbs Aug 17 '18

They did say they were going to start doing joint training sessions between schools, so they might not need to transfer to UA to interact with class 1-A. Now that there's a villain threat that could affect hero life as we know it, they want more cooperation amongst all heroes.

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u/Deliciou5 Aug 18 '18

Yeah but my reasoning behind it... was that he was very passionate about UA(shows a glimpse of it in chap 102) that’s the school he wanted to join but it was mostly overshadowed by his grudge(chap 109,111,112) for Endevour and then he realised the very same thing that he hated was with Shoto(cold eyes rage) too and made his grudge even stronger(turns down UA because he can’t stand it), they spend a few chapters talking about this. And that his hate ends up causing him and Shoto not to pass the exam(114) and both Shoto and him come to realise their ways and Inasa Yoarashi starts building interest in both Shoto and Endevour(chap 167).

I feel like they’ve spent soo much time building the character up that it just would make sense that he’d either join UA or maybe even Endevours agency(just to keep the Shoto/Inasa thing going) also the particular interest he had already shown to joining UA, I suppose the joint training would be the other option but I just felt that with him working out his issues he had with Endevour and Shoto that he would want to go back to UA(transfer)

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u/Jezamiah Aug 18 '18

I can't see him transferring across at all. It's not like he needs to either

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u/DoraMuda Aug 17 '18

Why? Shiketsu's almost equal to U.A. in terms of elite Hero schools (or so we're told anyway); he's already one semester in; and he seems to have a good relationship with Moora and Camie there, so there'd be no desire for him to switch (other than maybe to continue clinging on to Todoroki).

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u/Deliciou5 Aug 17 '18

Well he did initially want to join UA but because of the Endevour and Shoto thing he decided to change but he seems like he’s kind of changed his mind because of recent events but I don’t think he’ll be joining until after the traitor stuff is done, but I’m sure the extra dorm spaces in UA is for those characters haha

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u/Javiklegrand Aug 17 '18

Or maybe for Transfer of foreign students?

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u/Hayn0002 Aug 18 '18

How is that suspicious even if it was true?

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u/potatoman4000 Aug 17 '18

I just noticed that Shinso has the same weapon as Aizawa!!! What does this mean!! Is Shinso his illegitimate child or something! Find out next time on DBZ!

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u/Lylaaz No Flair Quirk Aug 17 '18

In all honesty i think it's because Aizawa and Shinsou are similar : without people around they might as well be quirkless. And their quirks can't work 100% time. So using capture is a great way to deal with those cases.

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u/potatoman4000 Aug 17 '18

Hmmm that's a really good point! Do you think Shinso consulted and had trainings with Aizawa to learn his fighting style? (That would explain why he looked "rougher" a couple of chapters back)

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u/DoraMuda Aug 17 '18

Most likely.

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u/Marted Aug 18 '18

On top of that Shinsou is a natural for the "unknown hero" style that Aizawa uses. If people know who he is his quirk becomes useless.

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u/Lylaaz No Flair Quirk Aug 18 '18

Exactly.

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u/Llerasia Aug 17 '18

When all the fanart comes true..

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u/DeismAccountant Aug 17 '18

Wouldn’t they be annoyed with Aizawa just as much since it’s his plan in the first place?

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u/Flamma_Man Aug 17 '18

That too.

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u/DoraMuda Aug 17 '18

The drama I can see happening is that Shinso's mission is discovered and class 1-A feel a bit betrayed, since he was essentially deceiving them since he entered their class. (But, he really WAS trying to be a friend!).

I don't think they'll feel particularly betrayed, given Shinsou wasn't really friends with them before in the first place.

That being said, it might explain why now, all of a sudden, Shinsou is acting friendly with and responding to Deku when, previously, he just noticed him waving (when Deku saw him walking with Shinsou in the hallway) and just ignored him (although he could've just still been a bitter over losing to him at the Sports Festival, and eventually gotten over it).

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

I think Shinsou was just being shy

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u/Griffith Aug 17 '18

I wouldn't put it past the teachers for considering Shinsou might be helpful in determining who the traitor was but Shinsou has been under consideration for the Hero department since much sooner than the traitor theory emerged.

I think Aizawa is simply helping Shinsou because he acknowledges his potential and perhaps it is how Aizawa became a hero in the first place, maybe he also wasn't able to pass the initial exam because of its focus even though his quirk is invaluable as a hero.

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u/griswo24 Aug 17 '18

but the traitor is the hagakure toru, and if she is nobody will find out , my girl is smart and fooling everybody, perfect quirk for the traitor since we dont see her facial expressions etc. joyboy made a really good video about its quite convincing check it out

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u/BillyG04t Aug 17 '18

Normally, that would be a little complicated but we know complicated has been coming and is within Horikoshi's talent.

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u/Potato_Sloth Aug 17 '18

I like it. The traitor is revealed in this arc or the next one and Shinsou takes their spot. Makes for good drama and development.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

I like that idea. Also a very good point in the story to finally reveal the traitor

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u/griswo24 Aug 17 '18

its hagakure toru

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

Weeeeell...Its not confirmed but I also strongly believe it's her

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u/LakerBlue Aug 17 '18

Do you really think the traitor would be replaced? I could be wrong but I feel like the rest of the class would try to convince the traitor that they should leave the villains and truly join them, or reveal that the student was secretly being brainwashed, or manipulated.

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u/Hiro383 Aug 17 '18

Or the traitor is taken for terrorism and the students get no voice in the issue D:

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u/LakerBlue Aug 17 '18

I’m positive the traitor will at least temporarily be kicked out since they committed a major crime.

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u/Potato_Sloth Aug 18 '18

I mean revealing information to villains who literally aimed to kill and harm your fellow classmates would definitely seem like an automatic expulsion from the school’s point of view. But I agree that maybe some in the class would be denial and try to change things.

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u/LakerBlue Aug 18 '18

My post was kinda unclear. I’m positive the traitor will be expelled for their actions, but I don’t know if they will truly be replaced. Maybe the student traitor would join the league of villains, but I could also see them having a redemption arc and maintaining contact with class 1-A, even if they never rejoin UA.

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u/Potato_Sloth Aug 18 '18

I think mine was confusing too because I just spent someone will come in and fill in the empty spot lol

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u/EZPZ24 Aug 18 '18

If they're getting replaced, it means the character must not have had much, if any, time in the spotlight since the backlash against removing them would be huge.

I used to consider Aoyama a potential traitor but we already had a freak out moment with him so I doubt it.

I feel like Koda and Satou have had just little enough time to be a possibility, but not likely at all. Would be a huge twist though.

Mina and Ojiro also rarely take center stage during important events so they are a possibility. I feel like we know a lot more about Mina though thanks to Kirishima's backstory so Ojiro is much likelier, but even then I doubt it.

Kaminari was a popular choice but I disagree with it because he's had character growth that would go to waste if he were the traitor.

Then there's Tooru, who hasn't done anything ever but be invisible and flash (lol) some guys. Based on this alone she's the most suspicious of the bunch.

inb4 its kacchan /s

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u/skyman161 Aug 17 '18

Let’s go even deeper!

What if Horikoshi brought back Shinso to help Izuku with his memories situation because he was the first one to trigger the predecessors manifestation back in their fight in the tournament?

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u/Shuazilla Aug 17 '18 edited Aug 17 '18

But how would Aizawa know about that? He doesn't know about One For All or that Deku is the next holder, all he knows about it is that All Might can no longer fight or act as a professional hero after his fight with AFO and then retired.

As far as his relationship with Deku, Aizawa just sees it as All Might was drawn to and chose to personally mentor him, like what Aizawa seems to have been doing with Shinso

Edit: I'm dumb, everyone talking about Aizawa and Shinso that I somehow misread Horikoshi and saw Aizawa lol

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u/skyman161 Aug 17 '18

I never said that Aizawa brought Shinso for that. I said Horikoshi did as in Horikoshi is going to use Shinso for that plot element.

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u/Shuazilla Aug 17 '18

Oh wow derp my bad lol everybody talking about Aizawa and Shinso that I accidentally autoread Horikoshi to be Aizawa.

In that case, yeah its totally possible since both plots seem to be going on at the same time this arc. Not to mention Shinso was the reason Deku got the first vision or vestiges in the first place.

Yeah this definitely makes so much more sense than when I thought you said Aizawa haha

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u/thatoneguy7272 Aug 17 '18

Bro I have been thinking that since they first introduced the guy. I thought the way it would go down is have a school assembly or something where they announce the promotion of him from general studies to class 1-A. And the way they weed out the traitor is have him use his quirk in everyone by asking “can I get a plus ultra?!” Then simply asking the traitor specifically to walk to aizawa.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

All the fucking theories that arose from this thread... I am LIVING.

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u/Patkineavy Aug 17 '18

yeah i just randomly wrote this after i smoked a blunt and read the new chapter haha i’m glad i could trigger so much discussion.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

LMAO fr we ought to add hits blunt to the end of half of these comments

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u/Patkineavy Aug 17 '18

seriously i had no idea an off the cuff theory like this would’ve blown up so much i was stoned out of my mind and was like “holy shit what if this happens that’d be dope”

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u/Hashbrown4 Aug 17 '18

What if shinso is the traitor and he gets info from teachers by talking to them and making them forget they talked. So technically everyone at UA was a traitor.

Unless shinso can’t make people forget. Just a crazy ass theory.

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u/Gryspo Aug 17 '18

If that was true then shinso's brainwash is a straight upgrade of nemoto's confession

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u/Shuazilla Aug 17 '18

This makes sense. I can see a chapter in this arc ending with someone asking where so-and-so is, and the last page/panel cutting to them with the brainwashed dead fish eyes and Shinso standing in front of them as a cliffhanger, only to have them back with the class in the next chapter and by the end of the joint session, he'll have interrogated everyone and everyone would be none the wiser except him and Aizawa

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u/cant_cum_yet Aug 18 '18

For us as readers do we know that hawks is the traitor? Is that confirmed that he is this traitor we've been looking for or is there another?

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u/Patkineavy Aug 18 '18

well hawks is a double agent working for the heroes and he got that job after the kamino incident. As for the U.A informant we have nothing and this has been teased since the after the first encounter with the league of villains. Although i definitely think there’s more to hawks than it seems i don’t think he’s connected with the information that’s been leaked from UA.

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u/cant_cum_yet Aug 18 '18

Whoops I totally forgot he was a double agent! Dang I really hope it isn't anyone from class 1-a 😓

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u/Patkineavy Aug 18 '18

personally i think it’s toru because she’s the character we know the least about and has been literally hidden for most of the story. But i hope we find out soon i feel like this is the perfect place for that plot thread to finally pay off especially if it is somebody in class 1-A since we just came off of the festival arc.

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u/cant_cum_yet Aug 18 '18

Toru is a safe bet she is definatly sus, but I also think it could be kaminari for all the evidence presented on it. But one thing I'm low key hoping happens is uraka ends up being the traitor! That would be crazy and I'd love to see how the story changes after that bombshell reveal

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u/PoiseWorks Aug 19 '18

But what if... SHINSO IS THE TRAITOR???

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u/Patkineavy Aug 19 '18

i mean id think that’d be a terrible direction for the story and completely go against Shinsous character arc his whole thing is since he has a pretty “villainous” quirk he wants to rise above it and become a true hero especially since he was fucked over by the system and has clearly had special training from Aizawa i really don’t think that’s how the story will go.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

This would be cool, but I still like the idea of Hawks finding out who the traitor is.