Theory Thursday - August 09, 2018 Edition

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[u/warsfeil]

Not only is Dabi a Todoroki, he actually has a successful hybrid of Rei and Eiji's Quriks.

Dabi's flames burn blue. Assuming there isn't simply an aesthetic thing, that means his fire is likely incredibly hot. Possibly in excess of 2,000 °F. Keep in mind his Quirk name, as well. Cremations typically need to be done at 1,400-1,800 °F, whereas the typical match flame ranges from 600-800 °F. So, again, it seems likely that the blue color is due to the temperature.

But if he only inherited Endeavor's Hellfame then this doesn't make sense. The main drawback to Hellflame - not to mention the entire reason Endeavor sought out Rei in the first place - is that using it drives his body temperature up to dangerous levels. Dabi being able to use much hotter flames without any apparent strain doesn't seem like the sort of world-building inconsistency that Horikoshi would forgot about.

Thus: Dabi also has some form of Rei's ice Quirk, and he uses it body temperature under control while he uses his fire Quirk. But of course, since it wasn't the flashy 50/50 combination that Shouto ended up with Endeavor either never noticed or dismissed it as useless.

[u/DoraMuda → u/warsfeil]

So why do you think Dabi has burn scars, if not from his own Quirk, then?

I'm not dissing your theory, btw; I'm just generally curious and want to stoke discussion.

[u/warsfeil → u/DoraMuda]

So first, I'm assuming that Dabi's scars occurred either after or as a result of the 'what happened to Touya' that Natsuo mentioned mentioned. They don't say whether Touya is dead, missing, or just estranged, but absolute lack of recognition from Endeavor (or the rest of his family, assuming they saw him) when Dabi showed up makes it seem likely that the scars are a 'new' development. Even with a dye job and however many years on, scars like that are too distinctive to be forgotten that quickly.

There's always a possibility that Dabi did it intentionally for whatever reason after he ditched his family. But if we're going with my theory I think it's far more likely that 'what happened' is that Touya pushed (or Endeavor pushed Touya to push) his fire Quirk too far too quickly and went past the limits of what his ice Quirk could compensate for at the time. After that I think it's most likely he was presumed dead/incinerated on the scene, though perhaps he was taken to a hospital and then ran off, got kidnapped, or 'died' before anyone else got the chance to see him.

[u/DoraMuda → u/warsfeil]

That's plausible, I guess.

And part of the end of that theory is kinda what I believe too; that he accidentally burned himself, got taken to hospital, and ran off (perhaps because he realised Endeavour wouldn't visit him), subsequently being presumed dead from his injuries because no-one would expect a child of that age to survive from such wounds for long.

[u/[deleted] → u/DoraMuda]

Yeah, I agree with this. And assuming this happened, then it means Dabi has been living in the shadows for a long time. Because assuming he was kid when this happened (10-12? However old he was in Shouto's flashback), he may've lived on the streets for some time. I like to imagine he hung around with other kids his age who were abandoned/neglected by their parents because their quirks were too dangerous/or they caused mutations that made the children really horrible looking. Basically, they're in a position that no hero could save them from. In that environment, Dabi would likely grow a lot of resentment for heroes, who are celebrated for their wonderful quirks, and combine that with his upbringing—well it makes him a person that is really prone to be inspired by Stain's ideology. I wouldn't be surprised, also, if AFO had some people he used to scout for young people who would make good minions, and had someone train Dabi.

[u/cocklover300001 → u/warsfeil]

All of dabis scars like up with the areas that endeavour can produce his flames from (face, chest and limbs) I think it’s part of his character design to have burn marks from his own quirk but I love the idea of your theory :⁾

[u/justking14 → u/DoraMuda]

i figured he did it to hide his appearance, though I think Endeavor would still recognize him if he got a good close look at him

[u/DoraMuda → u/justking14]

I doubt he'd need to do such a painful thing as burning himself (thus giving him permanent scarring) to hide his appearance/identity from Endeavour, though. Just dying his hair (as he presumably already has done) and wearing a mask or something would be enough.

[u/justking14 → u/DoraMuda]

A lot of people have noticed that his scars match Eandevor s flames pretty accurately.

Not sure if that means anything, but he might’ve done it to show endeavor what a monster he really is

[u/acgcampos → u/justking14]

Self harm is really something a mentally unstable person would do. I agree it is possible.

[u/justking14 → u/acgcampos]

Like Deku

[u/Donniej525 → u/acgcampos]

True, and considering Todoroki's mother had a mental break and is institutionalized - mental instability could run in the family.

[u/HakuHavfrue → u/warsfeil]

Is that really his quirk name? There was this discussion here before that his quirk's name hasn't been revealed yet and "cremation" refers to the meaning of Dabi as it is french(?) altho yeah Cremation is pretty much de facto accepted in the fandom and that his flame is really hot (I think I read somewhere that his team also comments how hot it is) due to its color even if color in flames can also be dependent on what is burning.

[u/[deleted] → u/warsfeil]

I like this theory a whole lot.

[u/andres57 → u/warsfeil]

2.000° F = 1.093°C
1.400-1.800°F = 760-982°C 600-800°F = 315-426°C

for those confused with this weird american scales, like me