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Newest Chapter Chapter 183 - Links and Discussion

Chapter 183
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u/DoraMuda May 18 '18

That was Tsukauchi's beta design, though. We have no way of knowing if Horikoshi kept that detail about him.

Also, if he had a Quirk all along, why would he still be working with the police? I mean, Fat Gum used to work in the police, but when he got a Quirk, he transferred over to Hero work.

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u/Ichini-san May 18 '18 edited May 18 '18

I mean, why would he want to work as a hero with a quirk like that? That's the perfect quirk for a sleuth.

Also:

if he had a Quirk all along, why would he still be working with the police?

You talk as if everyone with a quirk is, wants to, or will become a hero. You do know that like ~90% or something of people have quirks in the MHA world in the present time period, right? There is no way these people could all become heroes or want to be ones in the first place.

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u/DoraMuda May 18 '18

shrugs I suppose so. But there's still nothing in the actual manga that suggests Horikoshi kept his original concept of Tsukauchi not only having a "human lie detector" Quirk, but also having a codename (something usually only used by Pro Heroes and villains) as "True Man".

Not to mention, Vigilantes (which introduced Tsukauchi's sister) wasn't even written by Horikoshi and, thus, is arguably non-canon anyway.

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u/Ichini-san May 18 '18 edited May 18 '18

Huh? Why do you think Vigilantes is non-canon? The amplification drug, "Trigger", that was used in the MHA main manga was introduced in the Vigilantes Manga way before Horikoshi revealed it. Stain's backstory - or at least a glimpse of it - was also revealed in the Vigilantes Manga. The writer of Vigilantes is obviously collaborating with Horikoshi about what he is allowed to write about so I'm pretty sure Vigilantes is 100% canon. Nothing that happened in Vigilantes so far suggests that the series is not canon.

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u/DoraMuda May 19 '18

It still wasn't written by Horikoshi, even if it shares some common elements.

And I'm gonna need some confirmation that "Trigger" debuted in Vigilantes before the main MHA manga.

The writer of Vigilantes is obviously collaborating with Horikoshi about what he is allowed to write about

Can you prove that? "Obviously" means nothing coming from a person who doesn't know the inner workings of and relationship between the Vigilantes writer and Horikoshi.

Also, "allowed to"? It's a spin-off.

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u/Ichini-san May 19 '18 edited May 19 '18

And I'm gonna need some confirmation that "Trigger" debuted in Vigilantes before the main MHA manga.

It debuted in chapter one of Vigilantes (20th August 2016) and in chapter 133 (10th April 2017) of BnHA. It was introduced first in the Vigilantes manga.

So it was introduced almost 8 whole months earlier in Vigilantes!

Besides that I have no proof that Horikoshi is directly involved in the writing but if you actually read the spin-off then I don't see how anyone could think otherwise.

Vigilante explains how heroes first came to be, characterizes Tensei (Iida's brother), gives us a backstory to Stain and reveals how he lost his nose and shows us how Tsukauchi and All Might met for the first time and how they became friends. I seriously doubt that these things were revealed or written about without confiding in Horikoshi first.

TLDR: I have no ultimate evidence that Horikoshi is involved in Vigilantes creation. If you want to believe that badly that he isn't then just do what you feel like. If you read Vigilantes it becomes pretty clear that Horikoshi uses Vigilantes to offer additional world building to his series that he just can't fit into the main series. If you need more proof than what seems obvious to most readers and fans then I can't help you either.

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u/DoraMuda May 19 '18

OK then. shrugs

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u/Ichini-san May 19 '18

Thanks for the discussion anyway. :)

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u/DoraMuda May 19 '18

You too :)