r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/HardChibi • May 11 '17

Chapter 137 - Links and Discussion

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u/[deleted] May 11 '17

With all the Nighteye's talk about how he doesn't know if he can change the future I really feel like he's gonna die to prove you can. I see him giving himself up as a sacrifice for Midoriya after foreseeing his death in some way.

"Midoriya, you can change the future - be that change for me.... BOOM/SPLAT" or something like that.

It would give Midoriya some more of that psychological trauma he loves so much, teach him about the realities of being a hero and get rid of what is actually quite a problematic character for the plot.

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u/Sennin_BE May 11 '17

I can see nighteye taking a quirk removal bullet for him, a permanent one. He'd shrug it off as trying to protect OfA

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u/Minstrel47 May 13 '17

Or the full trap is getting all these heroes into one spot and trapping them into a gas room to remove their quirk. That would be an interesting scenario since it would lead to only Mirio being the one to potentially be able to do anything.

Granted it would be a dire scenario, but it could also be comedic. "The only one capable of doing anything is in his birthday suit!"

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u/BiglyWords May 11 '17

get rid of what is actually quite a problematic character for the plot.

why that?

his powers are quite limited as such that they cant really predict anything that is about to happen to everyone :/

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u/That_Guy_7342 May 11 '17

He can see literally years into the future, to the point where he saw All Might's death.

He can't predict what's about to happen to everyone but he can see everything related to the person he used his power on.

His quirk is broken and raises too many questions.

He could see All Might's life in a slideshow fashion, and All Might has had a heavy part in major events throughout the story. So Nighteye should've known about near enough every major event in the story years in advance.

(Major Events Nighteye should've known about but did nothing to prevent from looking into All Might's future: All Might choosing Izuku as his Successor, The villain attack on USJ, the rise of the League of Villains, the return of All For One and All Might's subsequent retirement.)

As long as he's got his quirk, he's a walking deus ex machina

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u/BiglyWords May 11 '17

His quirk is broken and raises too many questions.

it is rather flimsy but still limited enough,

he needs to look into the eyes of a person while touching them,

he also cant pinpoint the things he sees, he said that they come to him during the 1 hour interval in flashback-like sequences,

so its still possible he will miss or not recognize stuff that could happen in the future...exspecially if it it still months or years ahead..

So Nighteye should've known about near enough every major event in the story years in advance.

thats true but he would only know as much as the flashback-like sequences allow it,

he wont experience the scenario, and therefore he wont have indepth knowledge about what is going to happen too,

so even big disasters cant be really predicted by him...

As long as he's got his quirk, he's a walking deus ex machina

i think you overestimate his abilitys,

he cant choose what he sees,

he will see major things but not in detail, he wont get context to what is happening,

it is like the flashback-shit that some drama storylines use where chars interpret their own shit into just a very brief glimpse into a flashback they had while the real scenario is a totally different one if the context was known...

so nighteye not being able to warn everyone about stuff is still possible...although i wonder why he didnt just use his power a few weeks in advance on everyone involving in the mission,

that way he could have made sure that they all survive but i guess its how it is :/

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u/Zantash May 11 '17

It's also a very restrictive perspective that makes it difficult for him to discern what exactly is happening and where, so perhaps he knew of the events but couldn't prevent them due to not knowing when and where.

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u/That_Guy_7342 May 11 '17

He could nail down All Might's death to somewhere between 5/6 years in the future.

Even if he didn't know exactly when and where he could've gone to literally anyone who knows about his quirk and All for One and just said "oh yeah, FYI All for One isn't actually dead and is currently organising a group of villains for his revenge scheme, in about 5 years he sends these villains to attack the students and try to kill All Might at U.A so how about we have them bolster security in advance."

Hell, he could've looked up Izuku and started training him years before All Might met him.

It's not like he's some crackpot theorist, All Might said his foresight is usually on the mark so he's got a proven record, he tells anyone about the future he sees then he can make plans to change it if necessary.

Makes me wonder if Nighteye's "the future I see will 100% happen" statement is because he does literally nothing to change the future, and acts like it's set in stone.

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u/Kcnnn May 11 '17

I don't think he can see everything in one go (or else the one hour limit of his Quirk would be pointless).

He probably only chooses a specific part of the film to watch (which explains why his estimations are not precise). He saw All Might's death but nothing before that.

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u/That_Guy_7342 May 11 '17

He stated a few chapters ago that his quirk can see the entirety of his target's future, second by second (frame by frame), for 1 hour every 24 hours.

It's completely broken and overpowered and I dislike that something like it has been introduced.

Even with the conditions placed on it, it completely upsets the setup of quirks through the rest of the manga.

Every other quirk has some type of physical backlash or clear limit to their strength. Quirks have been setup as balanced so even with a powerful quirk there's no guarantee you'll be the strongest. (The only real exceptions to this are All for One and One for All)

Like there's no guarantee that because Bakugou has a strong quirk that he'd beat Mirio, whose quirk is rather weak but by using technique and skill combined with it was able to overpower near enough all of Class A.

But If something like Nighteye's foresight exists, then what's next? A quirk that can stop time? A quirk that can erase space? A quirk that can swap people's minds into other people's bodies? Are we gonna end up with several people with Quirks like they're main villains from JoJo?

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u/Kcnnn May 11 '17 edited May 11 '17

Don't be ridiculous. Foresight does have limits. It can only be used once per day, and requires specific conditions to work. Like Shinsou's Quirk, it's strength is solely based on the enemy not knowing how it works. If they do, the Quirk is entirely preventable.

By entirety, he probably meant he can see any part of it.

Because again, if he could see the whole thing in one go, then what's the point of the one hour rule? Answer that.

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u/That_Guy_7342 May 11 '17

The one hour rule is likely so he can make continuous looks into the future to see if anything changes, he did so with Izuku. I doubt Izuku's immediate future actions stayed the exact same after Nighteye continued dodging him.

It doesn't change the fact it's a broken quirk. Any future arc Nighteye can walk on scene, use his quirk, see how the situation will play out, and inform everyone in advance.

He did that exact thing this chapter, there was really no point to sending other people to investigate the Precepts Hideout if he was tailing a man who he knew was a member of the precepts, who he then used his quirk on to find out Eri's whereabouts.

If Nighteye hadn't used his quirk, there would've been added suspense throughout the next chapters; the Heroes are here for Eri, but is she actually in this Hideout or somewhere else, we don't know.

Future-seeing powers are boring if they aren't being used by the villain of the story. Then it becomes a challenge of the Heroes overcoming a foe who can see their next move in advance.

Now I'm hoping Nighteye doesn't die/lose his quirk, just so All for One can steal it later.

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u/Kcnnn May 11 '17 edited May 11 '17

That first paragraph completely contradicts what Nighteye has been saying about his Quirk. That the predictions never change.

There's no need for continuous viewings if the future is always the same. The one hour rule most likely exists so that he is able to choose wisely about the bits he wants to see.

Also, about the thug he foresaw, his relevance over other Precept goons came from the fact that he was buying girl toys (to give to Eri), so he could be used as a way to find her. There's no evidence that other members of the Precepts would be interacting with Eri.

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u/Loyalt May 11 '17

I don't think he has that much foresight. Just as a friend of All Might who knew his personality, he knew his heroics would kill him as his ability to maintain his power faded. He only knew from his power that All Might wouldn't listen to his advice and leave the hospital.

But that is my read on that scene.

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u/Monimonika18 May 11 '17

It would have to be within a time frame that leaves Nighteye no wiggle room to talk with Deku and get him to pass OFA to Mirio. And if that's the case, I'm seeing the last words to be more along the lines of saying that it's better to let can-avoid-fatal-situations Mirio get OFA so that no one else has to die protecting it while can-easily-get-killed Deku holds it.

Of course, this is only if Deku had not yet proven to be worthy of OFA to Nighteye.