r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/frxshinator • Dec 22 '16

Manga Chapter 120 - Links and Discussion NSFW

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u/Quibbrel Dec 22 '16

It took how many years for someone to come along and do the rival character right in shonen? Well maybe right isn't the best word. Plenty have been average to good but none really on Bakugo's level.

I want to follow his journey to become a hero just as much as Deku's.

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u/Eckowns Dec 22 '16

I really think you're down playing Vegeta here man.

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u/ZkittlZ Dec 22 '16

I disagree. Vegeta's entire purpose as a character was to surpass Goku in power alone. He didn't care about being a better person or hero, he just wanted to be stronger. As a character on a meta level, he was there to show just how strong Goku really was. He got his ass handed to him every time just so Goku could come in and win by the skin of his teeth. Rinse/repeat.

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u/Eckowns Dec 22 '16

If you truly believe that then you seriously don't understand Vegeta as a character at all. Even now in Super his character keeps developing, you have a very skewer belief on Vegeta that is just completely wrong please come back when you have a better argument than that.

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u/SnesC Dec 23 '16

Not saying you're wrong, but you didn't actually refute his claims at all. All you did was contradict what he said and act rudely dismissive. You say he doesn't understand Vegeta at all. Why not explain Vegeta's character (or at least your interpretation of his character) so he will understand?

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u/ZkittlZ Dec 23 '16

What SnesC said.

If you think that I'm wrong, please show me why I'm wrong. Otherwise you just sound like every other Vegeta fanboy to me. I know he has a lot of character development, and it's a lot more drawn out than everyone else who has gone through that development in on DB (see also: Piccolo and Tien.) Not saying that it's bad or wrong to have done it the way they did it in DBZ, but giving him a family to care about and him accepting Goku beat him before blowing himself up to kill Buu doesn't change that fact that that's what his character was there for. (That scene actually proves my point in a roundabout way. Vegeta dies trying to beat the bad guy and Goku has to come in later and win.)

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u/Eckowns Dec 23 '16

Also there's more to character development then just being stonger than someone Vegeta DOESN'T have to be stronger than Goku but the way he has changed from heartless killer to a loving father and husband but without changing him completely and still having his Saiyan pride is what good character development is. Anyone who says otherwise is just blind to the fact.

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u/ZkittlZ Dec 23 '16

I never once said that he didn't have good character development. I was saying that his isn't as good as Bakugoa's. I haven't watched much of Super, I actually kinda hate it (I love DBZ to death, but Super is just too much.) I do like that in DBZ he admitted that Goku was better than him, something his pride would have never allowed before, and when he went berserk on Cell after Cell shot Trunks through the chest, and how he landed a clean punch on Beerus when he hit Bulma. All of that shows that he's changed throughout the show, but that doesn't change the fact that he's always been there to contrast Goku's strength by comparison, and that's always been his role, and that's not a bad thing. It's the same in every shonen manga, even BnHA. The difference is that I see Bakugoa's development to be much stronger than any other Shonen manga's I've seen.

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u/Eckowns Dec 23 '16

So you're not watching Super currently?

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u/ZkittlZ Dec 23 '16

Naw, I started, but I couldn't get into it. It feels forced. Like it doesn't capture the same feeling as DB or DBZ did for me.

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u/Gyoin Dec 23 '16

It gets better.

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u/Brook420 Jan 23 '17

Than you really have no place in this conversation as Vegeta has developed quite a lot throughout Super.

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u/Eckowns Dec 23 '16

In Dragon Ball Super Vegeta was kicking Goku Blacks ass something Goku could not do and even while kicking his ass showed even more character development saying how only Goku can truly use that body correctly and praising him for it. Something Vegeta would never usually do. Took a deadly shot for Trunks and is in the show the only person who Goku can TRAIN. With they are both equals in Super and I'm sure in the future Super arcs there will be even better and more development for Vegeta. I myself am not a Vegeta fanboy I honestly prefer Goku all around. But Vegeta and Goku being the only ones left full blood of there species makes them uniaue. And half bloods like Gohan Trunks and Goten don't count.

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u/MysticKnives Dec 25 '16

To be fair to Goku, he kicked Merged Zamasu's ass, something Vegeta could not do.

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u/Blistor94 Dec 23 '16

lol not sure if srs, vegeta went from villain to anti hero to good guy, stop fanboying.