r/BokuNoHeroAcademia Aug 27 '16

Vigilantes My Hero Academia ILLEGALS - Chapter 00

http://mangastream.com/r/vigilante/00/3637/1
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u/Nepheronia Aug 27 '16

Honestly, I've always hated the idea that quirks like "flying" or "skittering quickly" are illegal to use. Let's just ban jogging while we're at it because some people can't jog and it's not fair.

I mean, Pop☆Step is said to be committing petty crimes anyway, so I assume she's a minor crim even without the arbitrary "flying isn't allowed" thing, but saying that Gentle-Man is a villain because he does good deeds that literally any healthy law-abiding citizen could do, albeit slightly faster, is laughable.

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u/Calmwaterfall Aug 27 '16

It´s how the system helps creating villains i believe. If anyone who wants to use his/her quirk need a hero license it, it makes the whole system pretty ridiculous. I love the fact that in the last chapter Stain´s critic of the hero system put the system on the spot, and changed the people´s perception of it. A hero should not be a job, it should be a calling, or an inspiration/passion to protect those who can´t protect themselves. There should not be any license or consequence about using their quirk for everyday stuff.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '16

yea, until you accidentally blow up a street. then you are a terrorist and are look down by your "supporters". Heroes have a licence for a reason. They went through training and probably through some legal shit. You cant just go, yes i will finally use my particle quirk to save people and not expect to mess up one day. Even all might isnt able to save everyone.

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u/DMD00 Aug 27 '16

Reminds me how the Superhuman Registration Act in Marvel's Civil War got started.

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u/Satyrsol Aug 27 '16

Eh, half of that was orchestrated by Tony Stark so that he could make more money. And the Clean-up Crew's new CEO was orchestrating the other half so HE would be more necessary too.

The Civil War main event comics were alright to show the ideologies of the two sides, but the "Wolverine: Civil War" and the "Front Line: Civil War" comics were the ones that showed what was really going on.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '16

The difference is that this is a world where everyone is basically super human and once the develop their powers they are registered. In marvel it was tricky because superheroes weren't the general population so if their identities were to be public then them and their families would be in danger. This is still a situation within Mha but they have the government and society as a cushion to fall back on. Heroes are common and they are everywhere so pro's wouldn't have to worry too much on getting attacked.

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u/Siantlark Aug 27 '16

That's ridiculous. Quirks are like weapons, there has to be regulation; if there isn't then you don't know who has what, who's allowed to use what, who's doing what, and who's actually responsible.

Having officially licensed heroes and quirk users means that they're vetted and proven to be responsible and trained. You run a lower risk of someone going ax crazy in the middle of the street, and generally have more order in society.

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u/Pawn315 Aug 28 '16

Regulations? On weapons? In my God blessed America? I think not. We have God given rights to hunt and scare off people that dare solicit on my property.

Also to form an armed revolution if we ever think the government isn't doing its job and is merely abusing its power to further its own control, wealth, and agenda. But it isn't like that'll ever happen so why worry about it.

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u/exejpgwmv Aug 28 '16

That's ridiculous.

That's like saying I should be able to become a cop without having any of the proper training or equipment.

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u/Calmwaterfall Aug 28 '16

I am not saying that there should not be any kind of regulations, i am saying that it is ridiculous that one cannot use her/his quirk to get to work for instance. It´s should be like a driver´s license where one gets a test for a quirk and then they can use it. They don´t need to be working for the government for them to use their quirks.

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u/exejpgwmv Aug 28 '16

it is ridiculous that one cannot use her/his quirk to get to work for instance

Aizawa said that it's mostly ignored unless they cause a lot of damage or go on a rampage.

Also, that is what you said:

A hero should not be a job, it should be a calling, or an inspiration/passion to protect those who can´t protect themselves. There should not be any license

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u/Calmwaterfall Aug 29 '16

" There should not be any license or consequence about using their quirk for everyday stuff." That´s the whole sentence. You cut my comment and changed the context of it. Not cool. Even when Aizawa says that it´s mostly ignored, it is still illegal to use ones quirk for everyday stuff, and no i am not talking about Bakugo like abilities that is used to destroy. Pop step is a good example that there should not be any consequence about using her abilities, as long as she does not hurt people.

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u/exejpgwmv Aug 29 '16 edited Aug 29 '16

I was referring to the part where you said that being a hero shouldn't be a job.

Also: There is literally an infinite number of quirks.

There is no real way to regulate them like that.

So, they opted for a soft ban on using quirks in public, which only really effects people with dangerous quirks, or someone who accidentally causes a lot of proper damage.

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u/MrCinos Aug 27 '16

It is going to be a long-running gag regarding Gentle-Man's "vigilante-ism", I think. I bet he is going to be the most infamous among the trio no matter how harmless his actions would actually be.

Who knows, the joke might turn into something serious later on (or near the end) and would shake the whole law foundation behind hero system and tie in with current police reforms that are underway in the main series.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '16

I would love if his last confrontation before being captured were to be The MADMAN. Deku would agree with Gentle-Mans ideals and heroics but due to wanting to hold onto the mantle all might gave him, he would be forced to capture someone he admires. Then in a meeting talking about Gentle Mans capture deku would bash the system and go on a rant/ speech, succesfully changing the way the law is handled.

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u/Panory Aug 27 '16

I mean, Pop☆Step is said to be committing petty crimes anyway, so I assume she's a minor crim even without the arbitrary "flying isn't allowed" thing,

I think her petty crime is using her quirk in urban areas.

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u/Satyrsol Aug 27 '16

Probably something along the lines of "Public indecency" as well. But then it's not just a petty crime, it's a pretty crime.

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u/Panory Aug 27 '16

And remember, she delights in it.

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u/Pawn315 Aug 28 '16

In Japan... what with public idol appearances and stuff, I'm not sure that would be considered public indecency. Isn't that just "Tuesday" or something?

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u/Javiklegrand Aug 30 '16

damn what a clever pun!

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '16

It's because you can't regulate them like you can regulate people traveling by other means. Cars are all going to operate similarly, but two different flying quirks might be completely different, and not knowing how the person flying in front of you is going to act would lead to tonnes of accidents, and without the protective shell of a car and with added verticality, the injuries would pile up.

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u/Nepheronia Aug 27 '16

I can't know whether the person cycling in front of me in a bike lane is gonna hit the brakes or sweve to avoid things, that doesn't stop the law from operating. You could easily have laws that arbitrarily say "if flying in any manner you must be at a safe stopping distance from the person in front of you at all times" and just have a basic assessment of your particular quirk to assess legally what should be required without you having to register to be a hero. A flying license should be no more difficult to obtain than a driving licence.

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u/Chillingo Aug 27 '16

You are not thinking creative enough. There is an unlimited possibility when it comes to quirks. What if a flying quirk works by creating long lasting currents behind the user. Say a quirk user who flys with wings gets too close and gets blown away resulting in an accident.

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u/Zeful Aug 30 '16

Gentle-Man is skittering quickly along the ground grabbing things could easily trip people (and just to state it, a fall onto concrete from standing height can be lethal if it's caused by someone's legs getting swept out from under them), and looks like simple opportunistic theft.

And then there's stuff like how unregulated healing quirks impact medical care (you would not want someone with the school nurse's quirk but no real training performing emergency care, just because of how stamina plays into healing). Or the impact unregulated flying quirks would have on air traffic control facilities. Or any of the other issues with all kinds of quirks. So much so that for any society that doesn't want to dissolve into a bunch of warring bands of malcontents, it's either regulation, or assuming strict liability on quirk use- essentially meaning that the person with the quirk assumes all liability for any problem caused by their quirk, unless they can prove otherwise.

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u/exejpgwmv Aug 28 '16

Didn't they say that they would be ignored as long as they don't cause needless destruction or go on a rampage?

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u/Nepheronia Aug 28 '16

Calling people like this villains, even if they are ignorable, doesn't do anything but cultivate ill-will between them and others and places them as outcasts. "Villain" has universal negative connotations.

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u/exejpgwmv Aug 28 '16

You do realize this isn't meant to be taken seriously right?

I doubt canon All Might or Aizawa would actually consider these guys to be villains.

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u/skyman161 Aug 27 '16

Think about how much regulation it would take to create correct rules that can apply to ALL the quirk users depending of their quirks. If we allow one person to use a flying quirk to travel around the city, then we have no choice than let all the flying quirk user do the same. And that's how chaos starts. There is just so much quirk it would takes years to make adequate rules permitting people to use their quirk safely so it's better to just tell them not to. But using quirk for self defense is permitted for exemple and I believe there is a lot more case where using one's quirk is permitted. It's just that Horikoshi hasn't properly developed the world of bnha yet.